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wardog ![]() Moderator Group ![]() Joined: 15 Jul 2015 Status: Offline Points: 6447 |
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wmunn ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 04 Mar 2017 Location: Florida Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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I fully intend to get the ram aimed specifically at ryzen, g.skill fortis probably
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Xaltar ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 May 2015 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 25903 |
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At the end of the day, if you are not happy with the product that is your choice to make, I am not trying to convince you otherwise. All I am trying to do is inform you of what I have discovered based on research and numerous reviews. Ryzen does not play nice with most current DDR4 kits, check out the reviews on youtube and you will see the common thread of RAM compatibility issues. Your RAM is designed for 2T command rates and is being forced to run at 1T, in my opinion and I could be wrong, that is where the issue is coming from. Some RAM can be run at lower frequencies with 1T command rate set but some can't, it depends on the binning.
I am repeating this because if I am right you will run into the same issues no matter what board brand or model you replace it with. The issue stems from the new architecture not from board partners. I strongly recommend that you pick up some Ryzen certified RAM with whatever board you choose. Good luck and please let us know how it works out for you
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wmunn ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 04 Mar 2017 Location: Florida Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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both the ram and the board are going back, I had ram running as slow as I could set it and it still did it.
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Xaltar ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 May 2015 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 25903 |
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Memory compatibility is a known issue with Ryzen and by the symptoms you described that is exactly your issue. Ryzen forces 1T command rates and at this point that can't be changed. Most current DDR4 runs at 2T command rates and will lock up or be very unstable anywhere past about 2400mhz (on a 3000+mhz kit). A 3600 kit may not work well without loosening timings and lowering frequency to about 2666 or 2800. Faster kits will net faster results because they are binned better and capable of tighter timings but you will not see 3600 on a ryzen board atm, not until kits are tuned specifically for Ryzen.
Your RAM is causing the post loops as it tries to train the memory and fails until defaults are loaded. Set the RAM to say 2400 and try again. If you can return the RAM then I would go ahead and do so. Gskill just released it's first compliment of Ryzen ready RAM in 2 flavors, budget and performance. Take a look: The RAM should be cheaper than the $400 you paid for that kit and will work much better.
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wmunn ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 04 Mar 2017 Location: Florida Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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I know the drives were good, the cpu seemed fine, had to be a board issue. Any version of windows installer would hang right at the beginning.
In the past when I have run into that particular issue a BIOS update fixed it, which is why I was trying in the first place. |
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wmunn ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 04 Mar 2017 Location: Florida Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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that was short lived, after flashing it, it attempted to boot windows again and it hung up hard. I tried flashing back and that didn't help matters any.
To be honest the board was acting kind of funny prior even when I first set it up. There would be long post delays, and sometimes it would turn on, turn off, turn on and do that like 3 or 4 times before booting up. I am going to assume at this point it is a defective board, which is why it acted so strangely. I was able to get a few runs of cinebench out of it, and it seemed chunky at time. This was with all the drivers loaded as well. I ended up putting my video card back into my old computer and that is how I am on the internet for now. Looks like this board is going back to newegg. Might as well return the memory as well, as it appears Ryzen will never need 3600 speed ram. Might as well just get cheaper 3200 kit. I paid over $400 for G.skill trident Z RGB (4x8) in DDR4 3600. |
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wardog ![]() Moderator Group ![]() Joined: 15 Jul 2015 Status: Offline Points: 6447 |
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Interesting. I'll make note of that. Again, sorry for your confusion. It's a learning curve here for us Moderators also. |
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wmunn ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 04 Mar 2017 Location: Florida Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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I was able to get it to flash finally. Instant flash is still missing in the uefi under tools though LOL
http://imgur.com/a/QHVRh I couldn't get it to flash from the usb drive, so I unzipped the efi tool and the bios file to the root of my c drive, which is fs:0 and was able to do it from there. |
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