X370 TAICHI $ GSKILL

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   So I got this cool motherboard... x370 taichi... and picked out some fine ram gskil trident  F4-3200C14D-16GTZ 

I do my thing get it running and smooth sailing with the am4 1700 cpu, but then I notice something... the ram is running at... 2133 and latency 15... If i try to set it manually it does a fancy little reboot dance  half a dozen times and pops back to defaults.
I have tried one stick in A1 and then 2 sticks in A2/B2  same results 2133 speed.
Is this a bios update? Maybe bad ram, or maybe bad motherboard?
I need to find out soon cause my 30 day return on ram is in 2 weeks.

Edited by Sensai - 15 Apr 2017 at 12:38pm

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Sensai Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Status: Offline Points: 19	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sensai Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: X370 TAICHI $ GSKILL Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 12:34pm
	So I got this cool motherboard... x370 taichi... and picked out some fine ram gskil trident F4-3200C14D-16GTZ I do my thing get it running and smooth sailing with the am4 1700 cpu, but then I notice something... the ram is running at... 2133 and latency 15... If i try to set it manually it does a fancy little reboot dance half a dozen times and pops back to defaults. I have tried one stick in A1 and then 2 sticks in A2/B2 same results 2133 speed. Is this a bios update? Maybe bad ram, or maybe bad motherboard? I need to find out soon cause my 30 day return on ram is in 2 weeks. Edited by Sensai - 15 Apr 2017 at 12:38pm

Sensai Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Status: Offline Points: 19	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sensai Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 12:45pm
	Just a thought... if memory serves this motherboard defaults to 2133 when it has all ram slots full... I wonder if this is the issue ? EDIT I wonder if the issue is the board thinks the slots are full. Edited by Sensai - 15 Apr 2017 at 12:46pm

Xaltar Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 16 May 2015 Location: Europe Status: Online Points: 25028	Post Options Post Reply Quote Xaltar Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 1:07pm
	Have a look at this thread: http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4565&title=am4-ryzen-specific-memory-and-tips (copy paste link) Ryzen is very picky about what RAM you use with it and even more picky when it comes to getting higher frequencies.


Sensai Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Status: Offline Points: 19	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sensai Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 1:17pm
	Awesome information Thanks... So are you telling me I gotta buy new ram? Or is it the mother board that isn't playing nice? Is there an update in the bios that can fix this... or am I just S.O.L.

datonyb Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 11 Apr 2017 Location: London U.K. Status: Offline Points: 3139	Post Options Post Reply Quote datonyb Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 8:57pm
	to be honest your choice in ram is about the best you could have made for ryzen and im surprised its not playing ball ok lets try and get it running bios version 2 > enter xmp and set that to 3200 profile now manually go down and change timings to 16/16/16/35 go further down page set soc to fixed then set soc volts to 1.0v (just enter 1.0 hit enter and it sets it too 1.0000) now change soc llc to level 2 hit enter save and exit wait the usual 30 secs for the board to think about the changes before it starts to flash lights and boot hit del key and enter bios again ,dont do anything just save and exit reboot into windows and check its timings in cpuz it should show 1600mhtz and timings of 16/16/16/35 now if you got this far (which i really think it should with that ram) now try slowly manually changing the timings start with 14/16/16/35 then 14/14/16/35 etc etc remember to boot each time you change each single setting ryzen at present is like a young child they need small steps to train them to behave
	[url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250][/url] 3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold

Sensai Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Status: Offline Points: 19	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sensai Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 11:36am
	Thanks datonyb ... I will try this when I get home... and post the results.

Sensai Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Status: Offline Points: 19	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sensai Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 2:26pm
	Alright i followed the instructions to no avail. This ram is not playing ball at all :(

datonyb Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 11 Apr 2017 Location: London U.K. Status: Offline Points: 3139	Post Options Post Reply Quote datonyb Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 8:08pm
	this has surprised me to say the least we have the same boards and for all purpose the same ram mine is 15/15/15/35 but it is identical apart from the xmp settings entered by gskill as a slightly lower binned samsung b die than yours 14/14/14. ok plan b may i suggest trying the same as mine 3200 16 15 15 35 soc volts 1.0v llc level 2 have you tried playing with the ram WHILE the cpu is in default stock settings ,this may help to establish what is going wrong it also appears to coming out in later reviews that the actual ryzen cpu can have an effect on max ram speeds (but certainly not forcing 2133) some reviewers have had indentical ryzen 5's stick on 2993 where other cpu same settings hits 3200
	[url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250][/url] 3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold

Peter13779 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 13 Apr 2017 Status: Offline Points: 39	Post Options Post Reply Quote Peter13779 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 8:45pm
	I am runnig F4-3200C15D-32GVK G.SKILL 2x16GB on my Taichi. They are sold as 15-15-15-35 @ 1.35 More than 17-17-17-17-35 @3200 is not working with my 1700x @ stock. (v1.375 and vSOC 1.05) This is not bad at all but i expect better timings with newer BIOS versions! Edited by Peter13779 - 16 Apr 2017 at 8:47pm

Sensai Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Status: Offline Points: 19	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sensai Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 Apr 2017 at 12:01am
	Well I just did an experiment and did manual setting of ram to what the board wants to set to defaulf. 2133 15 15 15 36 Guess what it did? The same fancy reboot dance half a dozen times and then went to default. Is this a bad motherboard? It just won't let me set ram to manual settings at all! sigh