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    Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 12:34pm
So I got this cool motherboard... x370 taichi... and picked out some fine ram 
gskil trident  F4-3200C14D-16GTZ 

I do my thing get it running and smooth sailing with the am4 1700 cpu, but then I notice something... the ram is running at... 2133 and latency 15... If i try to set it manually it does a fancy little reboot dance  half a dozen times and pops back to defaults.
I have tried one stick in A1 and then 2 sticks in A2/B2  same results 2133 speed.
Is this a bios update? Maybe bad ram, or maybe bad motherboard?
I need to find out soon cause my 30 day return on ram is in 2 weeks.




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Just a thought... if memory serves this motherboard defaults to 2133 when it has all ram slots full... I wonder if this is the issue ?
EDIT I wonder if the issue is the board thinks the slots are full.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Xaltar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 1:07pm
Have a look at this thread:

http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4565&title=am4-ryzen-specific-memory-and-tips  (copy paste link)

Ryzen is very picky about what RAM you use with it and even more picky when it comes to getting higher frequencies.


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Awesome information Thanks... So are you telling me I gotta buy new ram? Or is it the mother board that isn't playing nice? Is there an update in the bios that can fix this... or am I just S.O.L. 
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to be honest your choice in ram is about the best you could have made for ryzen and im surprised its not playing ball
ok lets try and get it running
bios version 2 >
enter xmp and set that to 3200 profile
now
manually go down and change timings to
16/16/16/35
go further down page
set
soc to fixed
then set soc volts to 1.0v (just enter 1.0 hit enter and it sets it too 1.0000)
now change soc llc to level 2
hit enter
save and exit

wait the usual 30 secs for the board to think about the changes before it starts to flash lights and boot
hit del key and enter bios again ,dont do anything just save and exit reboot into windows
and check its timings in cpuz
it should show 1600mhtz and timings of 16/16/16/35

now if you got this far (which i really think it should with that ram)
now try slowly manually changing the timings
start with
14/16/16/35 then
14/14/16/35
etc etc remember to boot each time you change each single setting

ryzen at present is like a young child they need small steps to train them to behave Wink
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Thanks datonyb ... I will try this when I get home... and post the results. 
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Alright i followed the instructions to no avail. This ram is not playing ball at all :(
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote datonyb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 8:08pm
this has surprised me to say the least
we have the same boards
and for all purpose the same ram
mine is 15/15/15/35 but it is identical apart from the xmp settings entered by gskill as a slightly lower binned samsung b die than yours 14/14/14.

ok plan b
may i suggest trying the same as mine

3200
16
15
15
35

soc volts 1.0v
llc level 2


have you tried playing with the ram WHILE the cpu is in default stock settings ,this may help to establish what is going wrong

it also appears to coming out in later reviews that the actual ryzen cpu can have an effect on max ram speeds (but certainly not forcing 2133) some reviewers have had indentical ryzen 5's stick on 2993 where other cpu same settings hits 3200
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I am runnig F4-3200C15D-32GVK G.SKILL 2x16GB on my Taichi.

They are sold as 15-15-15-35 @ 1.35

More than 17-17-17-17-35 @3200 is not working with my 1700x @ stock. (v1.375 and vSOC 1.05)

This is not bad at all but i expect better timings with newer BIOS versions!


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Well I just did an experiment and did manual setting of ram to what the board wants to set to defaulf.

2133
15
15
15
36

Guess what it did?  The same fancy reboot dance half a dozen times and then went to default.  Is this a bad motherboard? It just won't let me set ram to manual settings at all!
*sigh*
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