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Originally posted by 128noGB 128noGB wrote:



Thanks for the response!  I'll try and respond to every point:

---->  If indeed it is a 128GB Kit, check that ALL serial numbers are consecutive.

Just took them all out, yes all sticks are numbered in perfect order.  Also they say this on the RAM:

CMK128GX4M8B3000C16
DDR4 128GB(8x16GB)
3000Mhz
16-18-18-36
1.35v
ver 5.39


---->   Is this occurring before or after you set XMP?

I can't get into the BIOS to set XMP with 8 sticks.

Instead, I can 1 to 7 sticks, enter the BIOS, change settings, save and exit and power off, then plug in the 8th stick, then power on.

I'm performing this exactly as I type it:

-- Remove all RAM sticks
-- Populate A2 B2 with 1 stick each
-- Power on and enter BIOS
-- F9 and reset bios to default.  Reboot. Enter into bios
-- Change XMP profile to XMP 2.0 Profile 1
-- Save and exit
-- Populate all 8 RAM sticks, reboot
-- System will not boot/POST, hangs on:  Dr. Error   C0    before rebooting



---> You don't say what GPU it is you have. One in particular drew(before a vBIOS update) an inordinate and out of spec power draw from the PCIe bus.

EVGA Geforce 1060 SC.  It has a 6 pin connector.  I've also tried with a secondary GTX970.  Both are the same.  I also tried plugging in the PCIe power into the motherboard.  All 4 power are filled.

SIDE NOTE:  This motherboard has a completely exposed PCIi power connector wiring right next to the motherboard reset/power on switches.  A finger needs to simply be off by less 1 inch before some serious hard to the end-user could occur.  Unlike the entirety of the rest of the mobo, this one has completely exposed power receptacles.

--> Pull all the power connections and look at the mating M and F parts

Done and no change.   It should be noted that this is my SECOND motherboard (returned the prior x399 Fatal1ty per Asrock recommendation) as well as my SECOND PSU (other was brand new as well).  New PSU was purchased on the side chance the CPU 2+2/4+4 power wasn't correct.



It almost looks as if the bios says this:  "Hmm, 8 sticks of RAM?  No post.  I don't care what settings just don't POST".


I don't know if this will help you, but I see a detail in your description of your procedure that if changed, possibly might help you. No guarantee... sorry to say. If you've done this already, never mind.

Insert all eight DIMMs into the board, if they are not already there. Clear the UEFI/CMOS with the jumper on the board. Yes I want you to try running your memory at stock, default speeds, NO XMP profile. Plus you should always clear the UEFI/CMOS when changing the memory configuration. Yes it worked for you without doing that in earlier testing with seven DIMMs, but with XMP enabled? Regardless, please try eight DIMMs without XMP, and a UEFI clear before starting the board with eight DIMMs installed.

With that much memory, you may not be able to run it all at 3000 without manual tweaking. Don't forget, most DDR4 memory like yours has the XMP profile tuned for Intel systems, not Threadripper or Ryzen. Your model of memory was first designed for Intel X99 board systems, the very first PC platform to use DDR4 memory. So while it may work with Threadripper, it was not designed for it.

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/vengeance-lpx-128gb-8x16gb-ddr4-dram-3000mhz-c16-memory-kit-black-cmk128gx4m8b3000c16

If you had seven DIMMs running above the stock speed, that was very good. But all it takes is one more to cause difficulty.

Next potential issue, common on Intel quad channel memory systems: POST completes and Windows boots fine. But not all of the memory is recognized. That will take voltage and memory settings tuning.

About the exposed power connector wiring, those look like the ground connections for that connector. While it looks scary, shorting the ground connections would do nothing.

Also, an M.2 SSD in the M.2 slot would not cause a problem with memory.

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Do either of you have SVM enabled?  Enabling SVM causes all my rear USB 3.0 ports to stop working.  Please do a F9 (Load UEFI Defaults) if you have  not done that a 100 times.  128noGB, did you open a ticket with ASRock or AMD?  I suggest you do both.  Enjoy, John.
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Originally posted by Benja Benja wrote:

Hi

I've tha same issue, no post with 8 dimm x 16Gb.

The Dr. code thingy shows this error:  C0

My Conf
Asrock X399 Fatal1ty pro gaming
Ryzen Threadripper 1950x
Adata XPG DDR4 2400 CL 16-16-16  16GB * 8
Zotac Nvidia 730 GT
Samsung 960 Evo 1TB m2

I can only confirm:  1-7 sticks of RAM = successful POST.   8 sticks = no post

Maybe a buggy BIOS CryOuchShocked?






Thanks for posting that you're also getting this problem!!!!

I haven't heard of anybody yet getting 128GB to work on the Fatal1ty.

Hmm, so what things have you tried?

I notice we both are using M2 drives.  Is yours also NVMe?  Mine is.  I doubt that would be an issue, but perhaps remove it see if it changes anything? 

Can you list the things you've done to try and resolve this?  Nothing has worked for me so far. 

Let's get this fixed!! :)
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Originally posted by MisterJ MisterJ wrote:

Benja and 128noGB, please open a ticket with ASRock and AMD.  Seems like a common problem to me - may well be a BIOS/AGESA issue,  Enjoy, John.


I contacted their support and they've been extremely unhelpful. 

Despite my saying that it won't POST with 8x DIMMs plugged in, they are asking for a BIOS screenshot with all 8 plugged in.   It is as if they aren't reading my ticket?

I don't know what else to do.  I've already returned 1 x399 Fatal1ty mobo.  Return this second x399 Fatal1ty and get another brand and chalk it up with ASRock simply not allowing 128GB?  Any ideas?
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Thanks, Benj.  Hopefully it will start some responses.  Enjoy, John.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote datonyb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 2017 at 6:57am
this might help some

the guy (chew) also posts up some very helpful dram settings and profiles

http://www.overclock.net/t/1638140/asrock-x399-taichi-fatality-overclocking-and-unofficial-support/20
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Opened 2 ticket to ASrock and AMD support...cross finger
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Benja and 128noGB, please open a ticket with ASRock and AMD.  Seems like a common problem to me - may well be a BIOS/AGESA issue,  Enjoy, John.
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Hi

I've tha same issue, no post with 8 dimm x 16Gb.

The Dr. code thingy shows this error:  C0

My Conf
Asrock X399 Fatal1ty pro gaming
Ryzen Threadripper 1950x
Adata XPG DDR4 2400 CL 16-16-16  16GB * 8
Zotac Nvidia 730 GT
Samsung 960 Evo 1TB m2

I can only confirm:  1-7 sticks of RAM = successful POST.   8 sticks = no post

Maybe a buggy BIOS CryOuchShocked?






Edited by Benja - 30 Sep 2017 at 4:31am
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Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

have you tried using some old tricks we learnt with the ryzen cpu and ram issues ?

after all ryzen is half a threadripper cpu


with ryzen systems we try tips like

get into bios (using less ram sticks)
change the dram volts to something more powerful eg 1.375volts or even 1.4 volts to test
find the SOC setting and increase this to 1.1volt (this is the actual voltage to the memory controller)

you can also try to see if your heading in correct direction and to make it easier to boot with ram issues
enter bios set xmp to 3000 and then leave ram subtings loose eg cl16/cl18
BUT
lower the actual ram speed manually down to 2133

this basically slows down the ram to much more stable timings

if you can get it to boot then with all 8 sticks gradually adjust settings back to what you require until it becomes unstable again and then you know whats to set it permanantly


Thanks for the response!

I have a question:    What is the SOC settings specifically?  As in, what does ASRock call it?  There are these 2 areas:

VDDCR_SOC Voltage
VDDCR_SOC_S5

There is also VDDCR_SOC Load-Line Calibration.   It defaults to "Level 1". 

Which one would be for changing the SOC?  I searched everywhere but cannot find which one is which. 


UPDATE:   I set XMP enabled, set RAM to 2133mhz, increased VDDCR_SOC_S5 to 1.1v, increased DRAM to 1.375V, changed CL to 18.    It booted 2 sticks, and 4 sticks (as expected).

But 8 sticks of RAM = no POST.

1-7 sticks of RAM = successful POST.   8 sticks = no post.


Edited by 128noGB - 30 Sep 2017 at 2:52am
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