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Make it easy for the next guy:
Advanced\AMD CBS\UMC Common Options\DRAM Memory Mapping

Took awhile but your right it's there. While stumbling through the Advance Stuff I noticed that the settings for the CAD_BUS were not carried forward from the OC Tweaker entries. Seems like all the other stuff entered in the OC Tweaker shows up somewhere under the Advance Tab. Problem or just a BIOS bug?

PS:
Ran AIDA64 Memory Benchmark and all the results - Read, Write, Copy and Latency - got worse after Disabling the BGS settings?!

Edited by Ken429 - 27 Nov 2017 at 12:52am
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did you have alt on ?
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If you mean did I set the BankGroupSwap and the BankGroupSwapAlt to Disabled the answer is Yes.
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the bank group swap alt = on
 seems to help lower latency

but its best to check stability first then try to tweak things if your inclined
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and tonight
1usmus the calculator author has released a new version which makes some changes to the tables you get back out

might be worth a look
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Thanks for the information, I added the site to my Favorites.

The only things that changed for the Fast Presets from V6 to V7 was tWTRS went from 3 to 4, GBS alt went for Disable to Enable and the CAD_BUS block Rec. 2 (30) was moved to Rec. 1.

But then I already made the BGS alt change based on your post a few days ago and the V6 setting of 24 (Rec. 1) caused my system to hiccup and boot with the defaults so I had to change to Rec.2! Looks like I'm was not the only one that experienced that issue.

Edited by Ken429 - 27 Nov 2017 at 6:05pm
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well lets hope your rock solid stable now ken

to be fair ive found the calculator to be a godsend in assisting the final tweaking to am4 ram

it would appear as have so many others
esp. with some of these lower end ram kits
i tweaked my bios settings last night to the newer v7 settings
same thing here
twtrs moved up to 4 ,altered the cad bus to 30 (although 24 was stable for me), and rtt nom changed for mine

regarding your findings with BGS

it seems general info on net was
bgs =on , better results in aida
bgs = off, better frames in games

your next test will be to see if it cold boots then , i found mine was troublesome cold booting with geardown mode set to off
i might try it again with the am4 boot training set to off to see if i can cut down the boot time ,but its not a real issue as i flick the switch on pc when i enter the office/mancave and get settled while its booting so no real delay in my life Smile
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one other thing i meant to mention

in the oc tweaker page ,and then under the dram timings sub menu ,right at the bottom is dram powerdown enable (or something similar) i turned this off
from what i can gather its sort of a snooze mode for system idle and ram down volting

my view ? let the dam ram stay awake !
so i disabled the powerdown mode for ram ,seems a few others also do this
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I guess I'm stuck with the AM4 Advanced Boot Training. As soon a I turn it off the system does the hiccup routine when rebooting and resorts to the default settings. Curious to know if you have the same issue? I did not have this problem with the EVGA 3000-15 DRAM.

I'll try Disabling the "Power Down Enable" setting and see if anything bad happens.
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at stock xmp with my 3200 cl15 tridents

i didnt need am4 training (bios set cl16 defaults)

when i wanted cl14 i needed am4 boot training

its basically just the difference if your timings are so relaxed or on the edge
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