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    Posted: 23 Nov 2017 at 11:09am
I got the F4-3200C14Q-32GTZRX for my Taichi.  Works fine at 3200 with XMP turned on.  G skill RGB software does not work.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232650&cm_re=32gtzrx-_-20-232-650-_-Product
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ooops yes my mistake

64 divided by 4 would be 16 not 8

sorry mind is elsewhere today
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It's actually a kit of 4x16gb.  

I know I've read everywhere mixing kits is potentially bad, but i keep reading posts of people having no issues and I'm wondering if the price is worth the gamble.  $1400 for 128gb is pretty nice to give it a shot.  

I did some more reading since posting this and didn't realize the XMP profiles are different between the amount of dimms in a kit.  I don't think I want to get into manually configuring them, so I may just keep looking for a good price on a 128gb kit.
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that is in fact a kit of four 8gb cl 14 samsung b dies yes,
two points to note

dont trust the rgb software, it was corrupting the firmward of rams early ryzen stage (i really would advise non rgb myself)

and second, we already did have a guy use 2 x 64gb kits and it worked fine, but in theory
technically you should only use a matched kit (in practise it seems not so life threatening)

you may well find though ,its a case of install 2 stick in dual channel
update bios,install windows
and then adjust manually ram timings fine tuned to your board before dropping in the other 6 sticks with fingers and toes crossed Wink
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how does this one look?  (buy 2 kits)  

F4-3200C14Q-64GTZR

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232563&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=7034161&SID=

It's CAS 14, which makes it sounds like Samsung b-die right?

Awesome price right now.
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yes sorry to confirm

you need to grab the 2933 'cl14' kit to make sure its the b dies

they should have other kits with b dies ,but searching the part number would have to be done to confirm (2993 cl14 would just not be possible using other chips)

at the other end of extremes the 2133/2400 flarex stuff could indeed have hynix or samsung d/e/s dies
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I found multiple old newegg listings from 3rd parties selling Dell T7910 workstations with 256gb of DDR4 ram in them WAY under priced.  I ordered them and they canceled my orders because they weren't priced right with the current DDR4 prices.  I was sooo sad.  Thought I found the deal of the century.
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Another sad thing was that I read that we can expect DDR4 prices to keep rising for the next year haha soon only millionaires will be able to afford it
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Thanks guys, and noted on your advice MisterJ.  Your article on the gskill stuff does state it all 100% samsung b-die.  I've learned enough from crypto mining that samsung b-die beats everything typically.  That's enough for me to pursue it.

It looks like Flare X is the leader right now.  Makes me sad looking at the price though lol.  I doubt any of this stuff is going to get marked down for Black Friday either.  I'm going to wait over the weekend for any possible price change then pull the trigger I think.

Thanks again everyone.
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Originally posted by MisterJ MisterJ wrote:

j1mmyfever, please do not take datony's statement too literally.  I am a strong believer in G.Skill (only) and have FlareX in my current machine waiting for a latter BIOS/AGESA.  It has Hynix chips not Samsung.  The memory I pointed to (announcement and selling) are Threadripper exclusive and I think they are all Samsung B-die.  There is a free program you can use to see all the information in the SPD memory - Taiphoon, here: http://www.softnology.biz/files.html
You can even burn new values if you buy a paid version.
datonyb is my go to guy for memory and can probably tell you which memory has Samsung B-dies, but G.Skill is very responsive and have always answered my questions about what chips are in what product.  I suspect all TR exclusive sticks are B-dies, but could be wrong.  Enjoy, John.


yes you're right-in gskills x399 product pages they do specify that they are using samsung b-die in all their threadripper branded memory kits which makes perfect sense based on Ryzens preference in that chip
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