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    Posted: 11 Jan 2019 at 6:48am
Never mind. PCIe problems are still there, just not causing hard lock-ups.

With the USB PCIe cards I have or HBAs plugged in, the 3rd NVME drive/slot starts acting up. I have fully populated the NVME slots, and have two of the NVME drives mirrored. When I plug these one or both of these other cards in *any* available PCIe slot(s) the NVME in the 3rd slot starts complaining about checksum issues. No extra USB or HBA plugged in is fine and stable with 3.50.

Progress in that we don't get lock-ups, but still problematic. Oh well.
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Just wanted to report that the 3.50 version of the BIOS has improved the PCIe issues I was having the Fresco USB cards and HBAs.

The Dell HBA seemed to work, but I noticed some NVME checksum errors I have never seen, so I swapped it with an LSI HBA and the checksum errors disappeared. I plan to make a test pool and copy data on/off of it for a few days to see if there are any issues.

For the Fresco USB card... If I put it in the 1x slot it works fine, but gets grouped with all the motherboard devices and I cannot pass it through under linux to a windows vm. Again, otherwise it works just fine in Linux or Windows. If I put it in a 16x or 8x slot, it does get put in it's own group and I can pass the whole card to a Windows VM.

Previously, both these cards, the Fresco USB 3 card and the HBA would cause lockups if they were installed.

Glad to see progress here.

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i've just flashed 3.50 and it works for me !
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if 3.50 does not work ping me and i'll drop the bios 3.33e for you to test.
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That is good news. For you. As I said, I am still hopeful of ASRock committing time to fix the PCIe issues.

It does not change how they responded to me, and judging by Google, and others by simply saying they won't support the peripherals.

They have released a new BIOS for the Taichi and I have it flashed. I will spend some time seeing if the issues still exist for my HBAs and USB card.
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The asrock support helped me solve the issue; they provided a beta bios 3.33e (which does not seem to be available on the web).
My decklink x4 pcie gen2 is now recognized.
The pcie slots are still not working properly (i have a GPU + 1 pcie x4 + 3 pcie x1 cards, but i can't use all of them, only GPU + x4 + 2 x1).
But this is already a substantial progress.
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I still hold out hope for a fix, but I am not sure that ASRock is planning on it. They most certainly respond with vague suggestions and close the issue if you try to contact them.

A wider Internet search will show you that others who need to use PCIE devices beyond GPUs have gone to ASUS Zenith boards which do not exhibit this PCIE behavior. I regret my purchase of this board, but am not able to move to the ASUS ones, so I simply can't use my PCIE cards which cause these lockups and instability -- currently I have two HBAs, a USB card, and an Intel 4 port NIC that all cause the lockups.
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Any update on that issue ?
I have exactly the same issues with a x4 gen 2 PCIe decklink card : the bios gets locked with Dr Debug error code 97 on all the x16 slots.
It works however on the x1 slot.
I've tried last bios 3.30 and last beta bios 3.33D .
This HEDT MB should have all PCIe slots functional. It's a pity it can't accept pro hardware.
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I have to wait for a other card,  from other manufactur, new created and  designed in 2017
I hope it is not true,  the Taichi PCIe X16 slots  can only  management electrical X16 cards
I hope it is not true,  the Taichi PCIe X16 slots  can only  management GPU cards, as the picture in the manual tells.

Of interest, a similar card as mine, same type, but not the same year of manufacture,
works  im a  X16 slot  from a X399 -Asus board perfect and automatically (without any climbers in the bios)

the new card has to travel 400km between Germany and Austria ...  in the Christmas season, before the truth comes to light.

have anyone on x399 Taichi board  in addition to the graphics card,
 running to their satisfaction, an X4-carcd (4lanes) or X8-card (8lanes) running in an X16 slot ??

friendly greetings Hans





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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MisterJ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Dec 2017 at 10:34pm
Centraleurope, I think almost all boards will be like ASRock in that up to date documentation on the BIOS settings does not exist.  I have asked ASRock support and there was no help there either.  This forum is about as good a place for information as any.  Enjoy, John.
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