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JayB33 
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 Posted: 31 Dec 2017 at 1:24am |
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I received my m.2 standoff from ASRock support (thanks guys). I enabled RAID mode in Storage and NVMe RAID elsewhere in the BIOS. I was then able to boot to windows on a single NVMe drive, even though I had not configured the RAID. I could then install the drivers in Device Manager one by one by selecting the those that had an exclamation mark, updating driver and selecting the directory of the latest AMD Raid drivers.
The only problem I've got now is that my ordinary SATA drives won't show up unless I turn off RAID mode. Any ideas about that? I don't need RAID mode on my SATA drives, only the NVMe drives. Edited by JayB33 - 31 Dec 2017 at 1:26am |
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Posted: 27 Dec 2017 at 11:51am |
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JayB33, a few comments about your goal and situation, you may know all of this already:
You must have at least Windows 10 build 1703 or any RS2 build. If you single SSD does not have Windows 10 installed with the NVMe RAID mode (not SATA RAID mode) enabled you may have difficulty getting the Windows installation to recognize it needs those three drivers. You'll be creating a Device Manager Storage controllers entry for a device (AMD NVMe RAID controller) that does not (yet) exist. I you can get the driver-less entry in Device Manager as discussed above, great, IMO it will be essential. Windows has all kinds of drivers available for use during an installation, but if the corresponding device does not exist, they will not be used. You plan on creating the RAID array with the utility in the UEFI/BIOS? That may be your only choice. Your single 960 Pro Windows installation should be UEFI booting, which is essential for AMD NVMe RAID. That Windows installation should have four partitions on it, which won't all be shown in Disk Management. If you use the diskpart command in a PowerShell window, and list the partitions on that SSD, you should have these partitions: Recovery 450MB System 100MB (EFI System Partition) Reserved 16MB (Windows "protective" MBR partition) Primary X GB (Primary Partition) It looks like you have all these partitions on the Windows 10 installation, and it is GPT partitioned. The size of the Recovery partition does not need to be identical to mine, that size is from my Windows 10 installation on a 960 EVO. You must clone all of those partitions to the RAID array. I hope this works for you. If Macrium can detect the AMD NVMe RAID 0 array, that is one major hurdle behind you. Also, an apparently successful clone can fail to boot, so just be prepared for that. You may want to check the boot order the first time the RAID 0 clone boots, and be sure you know which entry is for the single 960 Pro, they should be identified with the drive name after "Windows Boot Manager". |
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JayB33
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Posted: 27 Dec 2017 at 9:14am |
Thanks a lot. This is the info I needed. |
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Posted: 26 Dec 2017 at 8:54pm |
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Sorry for the offtopic, I just couldn't resist!
 I love how Jay even posted the friggin mousepad model.  Now, don't get me wrong, I'm NOT jelly! On the contrary, I'm really happy that someone put that much effort and funds into such a beast. Hope Jay has tons of joy working with it! I know I would! Carry on with the troubleshooting.  |
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1700X ZP-B1 (stock); X370 Taichi (UEFI 3.10); 16GB F4-3200C14-8GFX XMP; 256GB 960 EVO; RX 580 NITRO+ 8GB
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MisterJ
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Posted: 26 Dec 2017 at 8:43am |
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JayB33, you are correct! I failed to tell you how to install the RAID drivers. DL the RAID drivers from the ASRock site. Open the folder with the driver files. Right click each .inf file and click Install. Each of the three should give a response something like "Install Successful". This should place all the files in the "C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository" directory. They will be three folders named something like rcbottom.inf_amd64_6bbcc7d1068993a4. The ending string of numbers will likely be different. When W10 needs the raid drivers it will get them here. Then clone your C-Disk. Enjoy, John.
EDIT: Copy the RAID driver files to a FAT formatted USB stick (8 GB or less) as a standby. Your Rescue applications looks like it supports loading drivers. Edited by MisterJ - 27 Dec 2017 at 12:09am |
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JayB33
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Posted: 26 Dec 2017 at 1:02am |
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But if I delete it then I can't make a clone of it with the raid drivers on. ;)
If I clone it before I've created the array then the Raid won't show up in Device manager for driver installation. I'm sure you see my predicament. Edited by JayB33 - 26 Dec 2017 at 1:17am |
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MisterJ
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Posted: 25 Dec 2017 at 9:45am |
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I had the same situation and just deleted the SSD with W10 and included it in my RAID. Enjoy, John.
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JayB33
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Posted: 25 Dec 2017 at 9:20am |
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The only problem is that one of the drives I want to RAID has Windows currently installed on it. :P So I'll have to create a RAID with 2 of the drives that don't have anything on just so that I can hopefully install the drivers.
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MisterJ
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Posted: 25 Dec 2017 at 8:38am |
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JayB33, looks like to me you would need to create your backup media, create your RAID, then do your Rescue. When the "Rescue Media Drivers" screen comes up, install the drivers (written to a USB stick earlier) for the RAID and you should be good to go. Please remember I have not used this application or any of this type. At least you will have a copy of your original system so you could restore it to a single drive if the RAID method fails and we cannot get it going. Please see the end of this thread for my procedure on creating a RAID: http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6751&PN=2&title=x399hd-not-showing-in-uefi-boot-list-in-raid-mode
Good luck and enjoy, John. |
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JayB33
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Posted: 24 Dec 2017 at 12:00pm |
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My specs are:
ThermalTake View 71 TG RGB Case Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W Power Supply Unit ASRock X399 Fatal1ty Professional Gaming Motherboard AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X CPU nVidia GeForce GTX 1080 GPU TXD416G3600HC18ADC01 - 4x RAM Modules Samsung 960 Pro - 3x 512 GB NVMe Drives Samsung 950 Pro - 512 GB SSD Samsung 940 Pro - 256 GB SSD Crucial M4 - 256 GB SSD XSPC Raystorm Neo (AMD sTR4) Chrome CPU Waterblock AquaComputer Kryographics 1080 Nickel GPU Waterblock Hardware Labs Black Ice Nemesis GTS 420 Radiator Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC 2000 RPM IP67 PWM 140mm - 3x Radiator Fans ThermalTake Riing 14 RGB - 3x Case Fans XSPC Photon D5 270 Reservoir AquaComputer D5 Pump Motor AquaComputer Aquaero 6 LT Fan Controller Mayhems XT-1 UV Green Coolant Mayhems Ultra Clear 16 / 10 Tubing Bitspower Black Sparkle 16 / 10 Fittings EK-AF Black Nickel 10MM Ball Valve Schiit Audio Modi DAC Schiit Audio Magni Headphone Amplifier Schiit Audio Loki Hardware Equalizer Beyerdynamic DT 880 Pro Headphones Dali Zensor 1 Speakers Amptastic Mini 1 Speaker Amplifier Atacama SL600 Speaker Stands Steelseries Rival 300 Mouse Steelseries Dex Mouse Mat I already did ask ASRock tech support for an m.2 standoff bolt (not a screw, I have all the screws) that's why there's one on the way and I currently haven't set up a RAID array. In Macrium Reflect you create a Windows PE Rescue Environment Boot USB stick and are able to view / update drivers to be loaded onto that (so that the mirror software can see the RAID drives in order to restore onto them)      So in theory all I have to do is create any RAID out of any drives I'm not booting Windows from, just to get the "driver is not installed" exclamation mark to show up. Then I install the driver in Windows and create the Rescue Media. Edited by JayB33 - 24 Dec 2017 at 12:23pm |
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