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    Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 1:34pm
Hey everyone, 
Just finished putting together my new build which is as follows:
  • Ryzen 1800x
  • ASRock x370 Taichi mobo (BIOS version 3.20)
  • Dual Channel 32GB DDR4 3200 (14 CAS) G.Skill - I am able to get these numbers stable
  • Geforce GTX 1080 FE (I'm re-using my GPU from my old PC)
  • Western Digital Black PCIe NVMe SSD (512GB)
  • Corsair HX1000 - (1000 watt Platinum)
  • Corsair H105 240mm radiator for CPU

Anyways, I have not overclocked in years.  First overclock I did was on a Core2Duo like a decade ago, boy have things changed.  

That said, I'd love to hear some pointers on what steps I should take to boost my chip, I've got a lot of headroom to grow with this machine, just need to know where to start really.  I went through the menu and didn't find any core multiplier which is what I remember using to OC my C2D.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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AMD Ryzen??Master Utility for Overclocking Control | AMD

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Hey Kerberos, have you used this software?  I mean, it's coming from AMD so I trust it... just wondering if it has a good track record.

amazing you can do this stuff from windows now.
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Originally posted by Erasmus_Tycho Erasmus_Tycho wrote:

just need to know where to start really. Any help would be greatly appreciated!


Hey Erasmus_Tycho,

Great build you got there! Maybe your radiator will be a bit struggling with high clocks, but it should do the job.

Any good and stable clock starts with lots and lots of reading. Even with the unlocked Ryzen multipliers it's not a trivial task to maintain stable 4GHz.

A good start is https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ryzen-strictly-technical.2500572/ and the various YT videos.

Ryzen master is rather buggy for my liking.
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Hey zlobster,
Thanks!  Yes I'm intending to take it slow.  Currently when I run Prime95 at 3.7GHz my temps top out at 53 C (custom fan profile for the radiator has them only at 50% speed sub 55c). Heat is a major factor for how far I'll go with my OC as I live in Arizona, and our summers are brutal.  While I have a case that helps make up for that, it doesn't completely resolve the problem simply because the ambient temp is just high on a hot summer day.  

Thanks for the link, I'm the type of guy that likes to know what I'm turning off/on, not just a "do this because it will help make it more stable." answer.

The goal is an OC that can run at or below 65c at full load on prime95, so something modest.
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Finally a sane clocker! Big smile Thank you!

I like how you take it humbly, step-by-step, while considering all factors, incl. your lack of knowledge. That's the proper way to do it.

I hate guys who just crank all the dials up and then start whining 'Whaaa, I can't hit 1000GHz!!!!1!' You on the other hand, know what do you want and why do you want it. I think you're aiming for something reasonable and you won't have much trouble reaching your goal.

On the topic - I'm an oldfart OC-er but Ryzen is a totally different beast. I mean everyone can set the multiplier but that's far from real OC, let alone optimal one. I also see you have a balanced setup, so OC-ing the CPU should definitely do you good. Taichi itself is a very solid ground for a stable OC.

Off-topic: do you use an A/C in your house/flat/trailer/whatever? If you keep the room temps at check only the sky is the limit. Big smile

Other thoughts: lowering RAM latency and/or boosting its freq. should also yield benefits for the whole system. Also, do keep an eye on the VRM & SSD temps, they need love (and cooling) too!
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In Phoenix, without a true A/C system, you cannot survive.  Unfortunately, cooling is a premium during the summers here and every degree adds to the monthly electricity bill.  Lowest I can go is 76° on a summer night, daytime generally ramps up to 78° with the AC running ALL DAY if the house is occupied just to keep up and ceiling fans on full speed in every room. 

Thanks for the tips friend!
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Hmm, 78F is not that high IMO. Due to the layout of my flat I need 2 separate A/C units on the opposite sides of the building if I want to chill the whole place enough.

Since electricity is expensive here are well I often run with just 1 A/C, which in turn carries me into the mid 80s (God, I hate your measurement system Confused).

You should be fine with a decent airflow in and around your case. As firmware matures we're to see even higher clocks and low temps. Ryzen 2 is also on the horizon, so if you really need cooler and faster chip, you can snatch one later. ZP-B1 is made on Samsung's 14nm LPP which is not the optimal process for high frequencies.

Please keep us posted on your progress. It's always nice to hear a success story!

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cpu wise
id suggest 3.9 ghz all cores

on ryzen dont be messing with that nice bckclk setting we have (it will mess up the pcie bus when getting to 104ish mhz) leave it at auto/100mhz
when running 3.9ghz you should be able to have it nice and stable at circa 1.325 volts (a good starting point) dispite the early yt vids and reviews 4ghz isnt as easy as what they would like you to think, it takes a lot more voltage and is a lot less succesful 100% stable,pay attention to the cpu LLC this does help set to level 2 (second tightest)

bryan from yestechcity on YT done an early taichi overclocking video with earlier bios (its very similar to later versions with what to change and where to find the settings)

now as for ram ,youve not  made a bad choice ,but tweaking it anymore to say 3333mhz or 3466mhz may be a long and tiring day.although there should be some more milage in it
lowering some of the sub timings when you get to 3200mhz and faster usually helps a bit more in gaming etc than outright ram speed (particulary if you end up lossening timings to cl16 to get ram faster, as this is counter productive)
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Hey datonyb, it's funny you bring up that video, I have infact watched it and got some explanation of what "CPU droop" is and how to counter it at higher clocks using the level 2 LLC.

It would be great if I could get it to 3.9 at under 1.35v. I've also read messing with the bclck (base clock before going through the multiplier) will effect the whole machine, which is bad when getting above 104, even could cause data loss for M.2 drives... Which I have and done want.

As for my ram, the gains above 3200 @14cas seem to be minimal in real world benchmarks. It's one of the reasons I spent more money on the RAM, to get the highest speeds I could without spending days trying to get speeds that weren't guaranteed. And as you've pointed out, a high speed with a higher cas, isn't always better.

What's your take on that Yestechcity video on disabling some of the core features? I've actually got my CPU at 3.8ghz right now without changing those features... Still testing how low I can go with voltage at that clock, but below 1.35v and temps are manageable without the fans Turning into a jet engine.
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