X370 TaiChi & R7 200 series GPU crash

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   So it's starting to look like the TaiChi is the culprit.

Latest chipset with latest video drivers resulted in crashes on the Win 10 upgrade.

Latest chipset with the 17.1.1 video drivers (a combo which seemed to be okay with the fresh install of Win 10 but I didn't use it too much) resulted in crashes on the Win 10 upgrade.

So at this point it's up in the air if it might be an upgrade vs fresh install issue, a video card issue or a mobo issue.

Finally got the old video card to try out... and boy is it an oldie! An ASUS EAH5450.
Doesn't even come with the PCIe power connector, so it's not in the same league as the R7 260X.
But I installed it, followed the option to download the 'newer' Catalyst 15.1 drivers, started using it...and within 1/2 hour it crashes.

Going to try the ASUS with the fresh Win 10 install to confirm.

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pokkoloco Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 01 Mar 2018 Status: Offline Points: 12	Post Options Post Reply Quote pokkoloco Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: X370 TaiChi & R7 200 series GPU crash Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 1:02am
	So it's starting to look like the TaiChi is the culprit. Latest chipset with latest video drivers resulted in crashes on the Win 10 upgrade. Latest chipset with the 17.1.1 video drivers (a combo which seemed to be okay with the fresh install of Win 10 but I didn't use it too much) resulted in crashes on the Win 10 upgrade. So at this point it's up in the air if it might be an upgrade vs fresh install issue, a video card issue or a mobo issue. Finally got the old video card to try out... and boy is it an oldie! An ASUS EAH5450. Doesn't even come with the PCIe power connector, so it's not in the same league as the R7 260X. But I installed it, followed the option to download the 'newer' Catalyst 15.1 drivers, started using it...and within 1/2 hour it crashes. Going to try the ASUS with the fresh Win 10 install to confirm.

MisterJ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 19 Apr 2017 Status: Offline Points: 1097	Post Options Post Reply Quote MisterJ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 3:42am
	pokkoloco, I guess the Chip Set drivers detected the video card and installed the drivers. The forum has several ways to mess up links, so just do what you can to get them working - my approach. Enjoy, John.
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pokkoloco Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 01 Mar 2018 Status: Offline Points: 12	Post Options Post Reply Quote pokkoloco Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 3:38am
	datonyb Thanks, I did some checking and found CPUID's Hardware Monitor.Grabbed the first link which apparently is the Pro version so I'm not sure what grace period there is. But it is taking snapshots of various parameters although at intervals, so hopefully it might shed some light. System has not crashed out thus far while HWMonitor has been in place... about hour & a half. Will update as situation does.

datonyb Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 11 Apr 2017 Location: London U.K. Status: Offline Points: 3154	Post Options Post Reply Quote datonyb Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 2:19am
	yes there is a utility alas its the radeon tweaker .................... global settings allthough a lot of people use the msi graphics software (works on non msi cards)
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pokkoloco Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 01 Mar 2018 Status: Offline Points: 12	Post Options Post Reply Quote pokkoloco Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 2:11am
	[URL=][/URL]And again.... Was just surfing with Edge (didn't even install a different browser, no apps installed either) and crash. Is there a utility that can log the state of the CPU and GPU in almost-realtime? I'm thinking if there is an issue with either the only way to capture an anomaly is to be constantly logging states/values. EDIT Maybe I was just blind to any previous Event Viewer entries, but at least I am seeing the error entries that the system had shutdown unexpectedly. Doesn't make any difference but at least I see the system acknowledging the crash. Edited by pokkoloco - 07 Mar 2018 at 2:18am

pokkoloco Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 01 Mar 2018 Status: Offline Points: 12	Post Options Post Reply Quote pokkoloco Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 1:23am
	MisterJ, yah, I got a bit muddled with the numbering. So, I have just finished installing Win 10 on a different HD. Downloaded and installed the latest chipset which lists as 18.1 My thinking was I would simply operate on chipset only, no video drivers, to see if the system would stay stable. But on checking the chipset looks to have installed 17.1.1 drivers. So the system has been running for about 40 mins, will monitor. If this craps out I'll consider the BIOS flash... EDIT: I'm seeing broken image links, in case that's a forum policy here are the links directly: https://ibb.co/bWfVF7 https://ibb.co/kbwFhn https://ibb.co/eDU1Nn https://ibb.co/dLKnTS Edited by pokkoloco - 07 Mar 2018 at 1:26am

MisterJ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 19 Apr 2017 Status: Offline Points: 1097	Post Options Post Reply Quote MisterJ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Mar 2018 at 9:05am
	pokkoloco, if you do decide to try the BETA, then flash to the bridge then directly to 4.41, skipping the bad 4.40. I think this may be the best chance. The next time you have a reasonable set of drivers (Chip and Video), please open Settings-Apps-AMD Software-Modify. This should bring up a screen with all the drivers. Please post a screenshot, but don't change anything. Enjoy, John. EDIT: I think the 18.3.1 are the Video drivers. AMD is confusing about their numbering. Edited by MisterJ - 06 Mar 2018 at 9:07am
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pokkoloco Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 01 Mar 2018 Status: Offline Points: 12	Post Options Post Reply Quote pokkoloco Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Mar 2018 at 7:46am
	Chipset drivers got updated to 18.3.1 once I ran the Adrenalin driver installation... And umm, I'm a bit terrified of that newer BIOS. Saw some posts indicating that BIOS 4.40 can cause a bit of grief...so I'm pretty hesitant to mess with that. Fact is, once I stay with the Basic Display Adapter (under Win 10) or Standard VGA adapter (Win 7) it stays running! Sadly I lose quite a chunk of usefulness... but it is delivering that loss of usefulness in a very stable and reliable manner! As for BSODs, nary a one. Got crashed out with the Catalyst 13.12 driver while at the Desktop and Event Viewer doesn't even reflect the usual 'Previous Shutdown was Unexpected' log entry. Going to try a different HD and fresh Win 10 install with these latest drivers tmrw. Maybe there is some software conflict as this is a Win 10 upgrade. Of course I do remember trying a fresh Win 8.1 install with the 18.2.1 driver and it crashed out too... This thing has taken the wind out my sails, just going to coast along with Basic Display Adapter for now... Thanks for the responses though!

MisterJ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 19 Apr 2017 Status: Offline Points: 1097	Post Options Post Reply Quote MisterJ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Mar 2018 at 6:40am
	We really do. pokkoloco, how about your Chip Set drivers, BIOS/UEFI (4.41) and dumps? Enjoy, John.
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pokkoloco Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 01 Mar 2018 Status: Offline Points: 12	Post Options Post Reply Quote pokkoloco Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Mar 2018 at 6:32am
	Kee-rash. ...sigh... Ok, going to try those old timer Catalyst drivers for my old timer GPU.... Maybe two wrongs will make a right? Or something?