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    Posted: 02 Apr 2018 at 4:27pm
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Originally posted by SoniC SoniC wrote:

I took a look at the newest 4.61 BIOS for X370 Gaming X and found out that the settings are there, just removed from the setup screen / Boot / CSM menu entry...

Currently these are present in the menu:
Handle    Control Group 
090F(Main Menu CSM)
0502       CSM
050A       Launch PXE OpROM Policy
050C       Launch Storage OpROM Policy


What is missing is 
050E       Launch Video OpROM Policy

They (ASRock) "just" need to re-add it back to the menu.
Unfortunately I cannot add this string to the BIOS-Menu by myself else it would have worked right away.


SoniC, thank you. I have notified those in charge to investigate this.

I tried duping it here and cant.



As Sonic wrote here, the "Launch Video OpROM Policy" is present but not enabled in latest bios files, so video cards without UEFI/GOP bios present are not working with latest (in my case L4.51) bios

I have tested this with HD6970/GTX580/GTX680 none of them will display image, switching the output to the HDMI from the 2400G will display image, booting windows with any of these cards will not detect them at all in device manager. It is clear that the motherboard doesn't even initialize any comunication with the video cards, this further confirms that the CSM module for legacy video cards is not enabled un latest bios versions.



Edited by cristy6100 - 02 Apr 2018 at 4:34pm
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Dear cristy6100,

Greetings, this is ASRock TSD.


The BIOS default of CSM option is enabled and also Launch Video OpROM Policy option is legacy mode so that it doesn?t affect the display output.

Besides, we tested the graphics cards which only support legacy mode, it can properly display when the system boot up.


Thanks!

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Relax all. I have gotten their attention concerning this.

cristy6100, ummm.... chill with the badmouthing please. OK? It is not helping nor helpful.

First and last warning.
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Don't worry about secure boot, it will never cause problems in Windows, I had problems with it on some servers when I updated from CentOS 6.5 towards 7 but that was way back in 2013-2014, on Windows systems I remember switching secure boot on and using GPT boot disks from the Windows 8 days.
Every system I configure I enable secure boot and disable CSM if video card allows it, it gives faster boot time on some system configurations. 

PS: edited my tantrums and grammar, sorry guys for it


Edited by cristy6100 - 31 Mar 2018 at 6:18am
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i dont use secure boot, so theres no way that my gpu would be blocked due to it.
anyway tryied to changed vbios from palit to asus, and theres no change for efi (efi bios seems to be same as on palit bios)
UEFI Support          : Yes
UEFI Version          : 0x30005 (Sep 12 2016 @ 21147289 )
UEFI Variant Id       : 0x0000000000000007 ( GP1xx )
UEFI Signer(s)        : Microsoft Corporation UEFI CA 2011

but i really like asus bios version much more, fan profile can go 0% and it raises slowly (1% increments) at 50C+ and slows down slowly when needed (no fan noise spikes) :)
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Until a new bios is released that HOPEFULLY fixes these 2 problems there is no fix.
I for one cannot enable Fast Boot, I dont even have the menu option, only Ultra Fast, tried with CSM Disabled and Enabled, and if I enable Ultra Fast and Disable CSM it will not post same as you.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote akumajou Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Mar 2018 at 5:26pm
I'm having the same problem as kerberos_20:

http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=8231&title=secure-boot-and-ultra-fast-enabled-fails-to-boot (don't know why BBcodes for links aren't working, by the way)

This is quite a glaring oversight... Is there nothing that can be done?
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Originally posted by SoniC SoniC wrote:

I took a look at the newest 4.61 BIOS for X370 Gaming X and found out that the settings are there, just removed from the setup screen / Boot / CSM menu entry...

Currently these are present in the menu:
Handle    Control Group 
090F(Main Menu CSM)
0502       CSM
050A       Launch PXE OpROM Policy
050C       Launch Storage OpROM Policy


What is missing is 
050E       Launch Video OpROM Policy

They (ASRock) "just" need to re-add it back to the menu.
Unfortunately I cannot add this string to the BIOS-Menu by myself else it would have worked right away.


SoniC, thank you. I have notified those in charge to investigate this.

I tried duping it here and cant.


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Nice, thanks for clearing this up, I already reported this and all other bugs I found in a support ticket, and they got back and confirmed all bugs except one, for the Chassis Fan 1/Water pump speed, but I was able to re-create the RPM drop by switching the Control Mode from PWM Mode to DC Mode, it will give a RPM drop between 500-1600RPM depending on the connected fan speed, long story short all bugs I reported were confirmed.
You can find what I reported here on the forum a couple of pages back
For the moment they gave no ETA on a new bios, but it should come in april, Asus already released BIOS'es with the new agesa code PinnaclePI 1.0.0.2 and new SMU firmware, so ASRock should come with new versions any moment now

EDIT: Here they are:

http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=8166&KW=&title=yet-another-uefi-bug-with-ab350-x370-itx-ac

http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=8075&KW=&title=fatality-x370-itx-ac-bios-l451-very-buggy


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I took a look at the newest 4.61 BIOS for X370 Gaming X and found out that the settings are there, just removed from the setup screen / Boot / CSM menu entry...

Currently these are present in the menu:
Handle    Control Group 
090F(Main Menu CSM)
0502       CSM
050A       Launch PXE OpROM Policy
050C       Launch Storage OpROM Policy


What is missing is 
050E       Launch Video OpROM Policy

They (ASRock) "just" need to re-add it back to the menu.
Unfortunately I cannot add this string to the BIOS-Menu by myself else it would have worked right away.
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