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Thenightstalker
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Hi,
there?™s still no update for the ?žcold boot??Issue. Literally every RAM timing above default leads to not booting after unpluging the power! The Timings are ROCKstabke, I ran a bunch of memtest Benchmarks to ensure! I?˜m close to return this crap! I thought they?™re working hard to get things done but they didn?™t even officially released a BIOS for the WLAN issue, it?™s still a beta since over a month now...?! I understand they need to test and ensure everything is OK but I think they are already focusing on new Boards and don?™t care about ?žus??anymore. They should really get up and do something... now. I?˜m really annoyed, never had such a bad OC experience with any board, it?™s horrible. |
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Xaltar
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I get you are frustrated and I can certainly relate but please bare in mind that the BIOS is not developed completely in house by any manufacturer. Without an updated AGESA a new production BIOS update would be all but pointless. This has become the trend with all board partners, new updates only happen when there is a new AGESA update available. To work on fixing issues with an older version, spend all the time and effort needed to test and validate it only to have a new AGESA update drop a day before you release your new update is counter intuitive and a huge waste of resources.
Naturally you are free to use whatever product you like but do so with caution, do your research and look at consumer reviews/product assessments. If you absolutely can't wait for a legitimate BIOS update, don't get caught out with the same issues only from another brand/model. ASRock is undoubtedly preparing for the new 400 series board launch and I would not be surprised if BIOS updates for current and older gen boards has taken a bit of a back seat but the exact same can be said for AMD. As I said, no AGESA, no production BIOS update (hence the beta). Your issue is a minor one, most people do not power off their systems at the wall/PSU switch so the number of complaints etc are likely few. Much as you may find the issue intolerable personally, from an IT person's perspective it is a low priority issue. Your data is not at risk, your system powers on and functions and once settings are reapplied everything is stable as you said. If the issue was more severe we would likely see another beta release to fix it. Even a beta needs to be verified and tested so they are typically reserved for priority issues (like the wifi issue). I am sorry, I know this isn't what you want to hear but, I won't lie to you or any member of this forum. It would be easy to lie and say "it's on it's way" or "any day now" but honestly, I have no idea and I have not been given any information on the matter by my contacts. What I do know is that there is a lot going on right now between the intel board launches, GPU lineup launch and upcoming 400 series AM4 launch. ASRock is a small company doing a hell of a lot with comparatively few resources. This is why I like their products, they are, in many ways, an underdog that somehow keeps pulling aces. Be patient or not, that's up to you but I don't doubt the updates will come. It may take a while, it may be tomorrow. Just don't do anything you will regret out of anger/impatience
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Brandon
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datonyb
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it would be a hell of a lot easier to help you if we had any idea what board your using and what ram maybe then some of us can advise on helping the cold boot issue i used to have a lot of cold boot isuues with the ram when trying to push it ,taking the time to set ALL ram settings and some other small bios settings cured it |
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wardog
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Yep Nightstalker, create a Sig before anyone here helps you further.
I just read tough a bunch of your posts trying to figure out what you have system wise. That was a big waste of my time. I will say this, whether you like it or not, what you describe is an unstable system, and how it behaves as one. |
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cx5
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@Thenightstalker
short story version I also had your problem once, lasted a whole month of two. clear cmos button is not working fully. JUMPER clear cmos button works. Try it. long story version I can't put in a sexy doll (my wife will kill me), so I put in abig gundam model and touched the ram, causing very bad cold boot. Always must let it bios reboot twice or more, then enter windows but crash within minutes and restart again, finally stable for the whole day.
So if JUMPER clear cmos doesn't work for you, try something else that you have not tried before. Might find the correct "unlogical" solution. I know it sound stupid, but it's not the only time and thing. Example. My day 1, doesn't even run 2666Mhz ram, no matter what settings voltages timings.
To me, this thing is alive, gotto give it time to learn/train and pet it and not rape it, go easy nice and steady. Edited by cx5 - 13 Apr 2018 at 10:27am |
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Thenightstalker
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OK guys ...
I posted and tested alot here, I was trying to help finding new and testing old bugs and I thnink I also posted my specs but if not I'm sorry! I tested to keep my PC plugged to the wall but unfortunately it didn't help. It feels like there's capacitor that runs down and causing the issue on reboot. Why? Because when I turn of and on within a short time it's OK but if the system is of over night for example it would not boot. The System runs FLAWLESS with all the Settings I ever tired, I ran Memtest tu ensure my RAM settigns are stable. I played AC Origins for hours and also ran 3D Mark with this settings without any Problem. I know how an instable system behaves, especially with bad RAM but this doesn't look anything like that. Which doesn't mean it couldn't be a problem with the RAM settings, maybe an option/seting that causes this problem but I am not aware of... I'm new to this CBS stuf and the way these OC Settings work is really wired and not intuitive to me so probably there's a eror I just missed all the time. Here's my full spec: Board: Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac CPU: Ryzen 5 2400G RAM: G-Skill 4000 C19 16GB Kit (Samsung B Die) Drive 0: Samsung 960 EVO 500 GB nVME SSD (M2) Drive 1 Samsung 840 128 GB SATA SSD Case: Silverstone Raven RVZ03 (LED and 2 Fans connected) Cooler: Noctua NH-L9x65 AM4 Display is curently my 47" Philips LCD TV over HDMI. OS: Windows 10 Professional (latest build, all Updates) Drivers are used from Windows except Chipset and GPU, those I downloaded from AMD and installed in the correct order (first Chipset then GPU). So far everything works fine except the throttling issue in games, so I runed of the Turbo in CBS. Here's my UEFI Settigns: First, I did a cmos clear by Jumper (have no button). I changed the configuration to CBS and set the DDR Voltage to 1.4 V In CBS I set GFX mode to forced and specified Framebuffer > 2G In the DDR settings I set Command Rate ot 2T I set Frequency to 1600 Mhz Timings: Top down - 14/14/14/14/24/48 everything else on AUTO This was tested as I said above and it worked. I also tried setting these over AMD Ryen Master and it also worked. I aldo don't understand why ASRock doesn't support to enter these values as simple decimal numbers instead of HEX which can also cause errors ...?! However, now you should have all the informations, maybe there's a solution??? |
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datonyb
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ok good ram so try this first (your issue is as said an unstable overclock on ram )
settings : 14/14/14/14/28/44 trfc 256 geardown disable/cr1t/bgs disable/bgs alt enable/ proc odt 53 ohms/dram powerdown disable/am4 advanced boot training set to auto/boot try set to 5 its often the untouched minor settings on the am4 that causes issues although your primary tRAS is ambitious hence why i advise 28 and not 24 in your case it having problem initilaising the ram when everything is cold , hence the windows testing being fine, ive been there and got the tee shirt my friend,alter the minor settings and then tweak the primary ones a bit lower i test in reverse to normal methods on am4.............. eg i try settings test to windows run a cinebench AND THEN TURN THE DAM THING OFF FOR 5-10 MINS and see if its going to cold boot before wasting time on windows based testing and this very weekend im back in 'play mode' due to having a very nice deal this week on 4x8gb kit of tridentz 3866, so i'll be doing just this same thing |
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p.s. please create a signature or something to allow people to see what hardware you have
you get much less help if someone has to hunt through previous posts trying to find out what hardware you have or as above list it in the question |
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in my case i got rid of cold boots issues on 3200+ with reduced tFAV values 37 tfav is super stable (xmp has 39, that one works until it hits 3GHZ)
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