Fatal1ty AB350/X370 ITX/ac 2700X support added

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Topic: Fatal1ty AB350/X370 ITX/ac 2700X support added
Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 2:03am

If you look in the CPU support list for both the X370 ITX/ac and AB350 ITX/ac they now list the 2600 2600X and 2700, but not the 2700X, why would they not list the 2700X as supported?

All other X370 boards do list the 2700X

The newly announced Biostar ITX board clearly states 2700X support with worse VRM's than these ASRock boards, this looks like Planned Obsolence

Any thoughts?

EDIT: ASRock has added today the 2700X to the support list of the Fatal1ty Gaming AB350 / X370 ITX/ac

Wonderful of them :) I had a little doubt at first, now those are gone

Edited by cristy6100 - 20 Apr 2018 at 3:41pm

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Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 3:29am

yes maybe
asrock have not validated it yet
maybe they decided not to use the higher tdp and heat sku

biostar..........................hmmmmmm does anyone see these as a competitor brand worth buying

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Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 5:14am

The VRM's used by the ASRock ITX motherboards can sustain higher TDP, up to 140W mabye even higher with no problems, if the Fatality X470 ITX/ac will be validated for the 2700X its clear that this is pure marketing, and planned obsolescence. I am waiting for the X470 ITX/ac product page to come online so I can check and see

Biostar is not a direct competitor, but here where I live, I can almost buy 2 Biostar X370 ITX motherboards for the price of the Fatality X370 itx one

The Biostar X370 GTN (the ITX one) was not yet validated for the Pinnacle Ridge CPU's, I am really curious about this situation

Edited by cristy6100 - 20 Apr 2018 at 5:18am

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Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 5:24am

pretty sure will work on it...

its like some mainboards or laptops too... my 8570p officially supports max a i7-3740qm... but the 3840qm works really well.

edit: maybe its bacause the first rev. ov the mainboard with the poor heatsink on mosfets(with the 5mm thick heatpad between

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Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 5:32am

I have no doubt it will, but some of us base the purchases on the support list, not everyone is like us tech savvy that we know it will work, then those people will contact ASRock and ASRock will tell them its not supported and they need X470, so not listing the 2700X seems just like a low level marketing tactic, and I expected more from ASRock, but if the X470 ITX/ac will list the 2700X things are clear

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Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 5:36am

cristy6100 wrote:

I have no doubt it will, but some of us base the purchases on the support list, not everyone is like us tech savvy that we know it will work, then those people will contact ASRock and ASRock will tell them its not supported and they need X470, so not listing the 2700X seems just like a low level marketing tactic, and I expected more from ASRock, but if the X470 ITX/ac will list the 2700X things are clear

edited my post... maybe its the solution ;)

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Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 6:08am

I wrote in another post about that situation, its somewhere around here need to search for it and I will link it, from a marketing standpoint it sounds plausible, they could do it, but from a technical point that thicker thermal pad will not affect the capacity of the VRM's.

For efficency/capacity of the mosfets to drop they need to be beyond 120-150C, that is impossible to achieve even with the thicker thermal pad, 95-105W is not that much if you remember the FX9590 with its 220W TDP and it was certified on 125-140W motherboards, I had a 9590 that I overclocked to 5.2GHz with 1.55V on a Crosshair V Formula-Z and I remember I had a braided 8 pin ESP extension cord that melted after a Cinebench run, it was a hair away from a short because of the insulation melting away but the motherboard and CPU is still going strong today after 3 years, the 9590 at 5.2 with 1.55 goes to a TDP of at least 300W, and all this with a H110 in push pull, again no airflow on the VRM's, if we take that in consideration 105W worth of current for these VRM's is a cake, and I know the Crosshair V Formula-Z had a 8-2-2 power delivery if I remember right :) and the ASRock ITX ones have a 3 3 2, so they should be ok up to 140W with no problems, I bet there are people with these motherboards and 1800X's overclocked that pull that much current and have no problems

Edited by cristy6100 - 20 Apr 2018 at 3:42pm

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