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XmanSE 
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 Topic: X470 Taichi memory errors in XMPPosted: 02 Jul 2018 at 8:17am |
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Hi, recently i build this pc.
Ryzen 7 2700X with Stock Cooler (wraith prims) X470 Taichi (bios 1.10) 8x2 Gskill Sniper X f4-3600c19d Samsung Evo 960 ASrock Gaming X Radeon RX580 Everything was fine, but suddenly the system start to give me a bsod with different errors, so i started to check everything, temps was ok, drivers ok, until i tested the memory and found an error. With XMP profile activated HCI Memtest give me a lot of errors, and system crash the same Bsod, if i put the default profile in auto the mems run at 2134 and 0 errors, and system run perfect. So, are my ram bad, technically they should work at 3600. Thanks for the help
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MNMadman
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Posted: 03 Jul 2018 at 1:09am |
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It is widely known that Ryzen cannot always get RAM working at overclocked speeds. XMP speed/timings are overclocking. Some people can't get their RAM any faster than 2666 or 2800. In my experience, 2933 or 3200 is a realistic RAM speed goal with Ryzen. Some are able to get faster than that, but the odds are against you. You can try higher RAM voltage (up to 1.5v) and higher SOC voltage (up to 1.2v) to see if those will help. There is also the Ryzen DRAM Calculator and Ryzen Timing Checker, which might help give you timings more likely to work (Google them).
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datonyb
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Posted: 03 Jul 2018 at 1:11am |
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yes technically they should .................... but they wont ,in fact im sure very few people have got 3600 with am4 even the new x470 and sniper amd branded ram the real deal ? am4 is still a learning process for gskill and amd and asrock now what do you do about it ? manually set the timings of course you realise on am4 3200cl14 will outperform 3600cl19 in most if not every instance of use ? advice here is to use a program called the ryzen dram calculator to suggest the settings to then enter into your bios
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Cuba1hr
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Posted: 03 Jul 2018 at 3:55am |
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Here I am again with my problem. You have better memory...and the board I guess with better support, if not at the moment - soon (TM).
I have X370 Taichi and even Memtest passed in recent tests - without errors on 2933 (default 4 passes) but get Memory Management BSODs in windows after day, two or three - unbelievable. I don't get it, how it passes MemTest and after it crashes. No matter what, it only works fine at 2133 for now:( I think I was right when I wrote no new bios during the world cup:) Over 2 months old beta. OT - Feel sorry for Japan right now...another unbelievable thing. |
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XmanSE
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Posted: 03 Jul 2018 at 8:42am |
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Ok i did some test, i put the memory with the profile enable, but i reduce the speed in octweaker-dram speed to 3200Mhz, and i did`t any other change, just save settings and exit. I ran HCI memtest and give me 0 errors 300%, so in theory everithyng is fine in this speed, but obviosuly the timings are very high for this speed. I´ll check ryzen dram calculator to try improve timings in this speed, and updated the situation. thanks for the help. PD: Sorry for my english i`m from madrid Spain.
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Posted: 03 Jul 2018 at 10:28am |
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better to start in 3200 and work on the timings manually
my current settings are 14-14-14-34 1.35v @ 3200 I've never depend on xmp settings because no matter how good the profile is auto settings is always a relaxed settings same goes for CPU settings
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Posted: 03 Jul 2018 at 1:30pm |
memtest is good to see if there are hardware errors (broken bank) otherwise its useless for stability tests aida64 has stability test for ram, and its waaay faster to get some results then from memtest (for example several hours of memtest produce 1 random error, wile stress test crashes after max 2 minutes :P)
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Cuba1hr
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Posted: 03 Jul 2018 at 4:34pm |
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The problem is that Aida64 - only memory stress checked - runs without error for hours. It crashes with tighter timings after a few minutes but with 16-18-18-36-52 I think and 1,38V it runs with no problem.
I am in dilemma, to sell my 32GB (for VMs and games, futureproof, but it isn't presentproof:)) and buy only 16GB Flare X and add some money OR wait for new BIOS...that got stuck somewhere. |
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Posted: 03 Jul 2018 at 5:06pm |
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hehehe i know that feeling but yeah dual rank puts more work on the IMC thus may require more volts
i say keep the 32 kit and keep trying until you find the best settings volt/timing/freq |
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Posted: 03 Jul 2018 at 5:47pm |
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OK, thanks, will try that once more as the last resort. I know that DDR4 should handle at least up to 1.45V, but I wasn't comfortable pushing it further (than 1.4V) and how it will affect RAM's longevity.
In addition - all programs using sensor readings for DDR voltage are always 0.02V higher than what is set in BIOS, i.e. set to 1.38 in BIOS/UEFI, shown 1.40V in AIDA64, HWInfo, CPUID, etc. |
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