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Originally posted by Jpe1701 Jpe1701 wrote:

Debug code is 36

Code is E6 I am dyslexic and had someone look for me.
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Don't forget the Spectre fixes! Intel boards got them almost instantly.

Although AMD is marking the Spectre fixes as 'optional' I for sure know I want mine! I mean, come on!
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Originally posted by bigboss bigboss wrote:

With all bioses and a nh-u14s cooler my max all core freq is 3925MHz. Should I change some settings to achieve the advertised 4GHz+ all core? I think the motherboard throttling CPU because it reaches Tdie 63C, and 73C with the temperature offset. I think that 10C offset is ruining it.

What are you using to check temps? I think we have to wait for the pbo to be fixed. 4.64 pbo works and I get about 4.075Ghz with a clc 280.
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@JZ
While we are happy and thankful to see some of the issues getting fixed the state of this board bios is still not satisfactory, there are still performance issues with Taichi/Pro Gaming, 4.81 is still a beta bios.

I see you have a 12 nm there, have you tested for the clock gen issue?


The list of performance issues for the Taichi/Pro Gaming is as bellow:

  1. Overclocking resulting in huge Cache/memory bandwidth loss. Seems fixed on Beta 4.81. 

  2. Clock generator/bclk not properly working. Confirmed by several OCN members- broken for 12 nm CPUs on every bios, including L4.81.

  3. Bring PBO settings back to the bios ( PPT, EDC, PTC, scalar ). Said AMD has removed these settings for agesa 1.0.0.4. Pending confirmation.

  4. Memory "powerloss" ?/Not clocking timing decently at all. Seems fixed on Beta 4.81


Not so urgent issues, still issues:

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  1. IOMMU groupings - those are terribly broken and renders this otherwise excellent VM platform barely usable

  2. Kernel DMA protection in Win 10 cannot be enabled, un-allowed DMA-capable bus detected - can something be done here?

  3. - Spectre patches? Hello?

  4. SAVE PROFILE
    You don't have a functional way to "Save Profiles" because ASRock bios team decided everything under "Advanced" is useless and not worth their precious time - Overclocking board that can't save overclocking settings like "Core Performance Boost", "Global C-States", all you memory timings/configs and so on... Oh, all your freaking Memory timings that took you 5 minutes to write down because you typed in HEX numbers  guess what happens if your memory overclock fails ??? Yes, you will need to type those nice HEX numbers again since you can't save profiles and this board is more than a year old !! Hurts 1st and 2nd gen CPU's

  5. 1-AMD CBS Memory Timings
    Here you have the most lazy work on the adjustments for "Memory Timings" under "AMD CBS". You can't enter values and so you select from a drop-down list...There you have HEX numbers and If your overclock fails, you will net to re-enter everything again as you can't save these settings.
    Bios - Since forever... We are living with these since the introduction of this section... Board is more than a year old. Hurts 1st and 2nd gen CPU's

As for memory speeds,

This is the Prime Pro with my 1700 and Micron D9RG@2927, like two weeks after the release of the first Ryzens.




This is the Taichi, back when it had a functional bclk with my 1700/Hynix M-die@3000 




This is the C6H with it's functional bclk, my 1700/Hynix M-die@3333



This is the C6H with it's functional bclk, my 1700/Micron DR9G@3134



This is the C6H with it's functional bclk, and my 1700/B-die.@3600





This is the Taichi with it's broken bclk, my 2700X/B-die@3466. 
Like always, BETA bios ( are we ever leaving beta ? ) or L4.81 if you prefer.




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With all bioses and a nh-u14s cooler my max all core freq is 3925MHz. Should I change some settings to achieve the advertised 4GHz+ all core? I think the motherboard throttling CPU because it reaches Tdie 63C, and 73C with the temperature offset. I think that 10C offset is ruining it.
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Originally posted by Jpe1701 Jpe1701 wrote:

I'm having an issue with my system hanging at post with pbo enabled on BIOS 4.72 4.80 and 4.81. I have a 2700x with gskill ripjaws v 3200 cl 16. I reported it to tech support. JZ thank you for your work.

Debug code? What's it getting stuck on?
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I'm having an issue with my system hanging at post with pbo enabled on BIOS 4.72 4.80 and 4.81. I have a 2700x with gskill ripjaws v 3200 cl 16. I reported it to tech support. JZ thank you for your work.

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