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Originally posted by J Z J Z wrote:

I'm sorry, just wanted to help.

is not my job here and now some are mad at me because i also have a lot of other things to do and can not always respond to every post immediately. Cry

I know from the BIOS team that is still much in the pipeline. Smile

Can you tell us some of the things included in the pipeline Embarrassed?
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Originally posted by bigboss bigboss wrote:

Originally posted by J Z J Z wrote:

I'm sorry, just wanted to help.

is not my job here and now some are mad at me because i also have a lot of other things to do and can not always respond to every post immediately. Cry

I know from the BIOS team that is still much in the pipeline. Smile

Can you tell us some of the things included in the pipeline Embarrassed?

That would be awesome
ASRock x370 Taichi (L4.72), R5 1600x, 32 GB G.Skill F4-3200C14-16GTZSW, RX Vega 64
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So, the updated list for their latest official non beta bios release.

The list of performance issues for the Taichi/Pro Gaming bios 4.80 is as bellow:

  1. Overclocking resulting in huge Cache/memory bandwidth loss. Active on every official bios since the introdfuction of 12 nm CPUs. Seem fixed on their lastest BETA

  2. Clock generator/bclk not properly working. Confirmed by several OCN members that it is broken for 12 nm CPUs on every bios, including L4.81. LZ also confirmed it is broken since he is ignoring it.

  3. Bring PBO settings back to the bios ( PPT, EDC, PTC, scalar ).  Missing options from 4.60 and up, said AMD has removed these settings for agesa 1.0.0.4. Pending confirmation.

  4. Memory "powerloss" ?/Not clocking timing decently at all.  Active since the introduction of P4.81.


Other issues:

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  1. IOMMU groupings - those are terribly broken and renders this otherwise excellent VM platform barely usable

  2. Kernel DMA protection in Win 10 cannot be enabled, un-allowed DMA-capable bus detected - can something be done here?

  3. - Spectre patches? Hello?

  4. SAVE PROFILE
    You don't have a functional way to "Save Profiles" because ASRock bios team decided everything under "Advanced" is useless and not worth their precious time - Overclocking board that can't save overclocking settings like "Core Performance Boost", "Global C-States", all you memory timings/configs and so on... Oh, all your freaking Memory timings that took you 5 minutes to write down because you typed in HEX numbers  guess what happens if your memory overclock fails ??? Yes, you will need to type those nice HEX numbers again since you can't save profiles and this board is more than a year old !! Hurts 1st and 2nd gen CPU's

  5. 1-AMD CBS Memory Timings
    Here you have the most lazy work on the adjustments for "Memory Timings" under "AMD CBS". You can't enter values and so you select from a drop-down list...There you have HEX numbers and If your overclock fails, you will net to re-enter everything again as you can't save these settings.
    Bios - Since forever... We are living with these since the introduction of this section... Board is more than a year old. Hurts 1st and 2nd gen CPU's.

It is pretty much september already and we are still on 4.70 with it's handful bugs and problems.






Edited by virpz - 30 Aug 2018 at 6:36pm
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4.80 on their site today. Non beta. 

And it is sh*t. Asrock really sucks at motherboards. Nice components but bioses bad as in am4. Previously in beta 4.81 I could hit 16-18-18-56 1.38V completely stable with m-die. Now it just shuts down. Also go to NBIO and enable from XFR the PBO (it can be enabled/auto/disabled) and computer doesn't boot just hanging with error code 00. I will sell it. Enough.


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Originally posted by bigboss bigboss wrote:

4.80 on their site today. Non beta. 


Don't even bother trying it, it is EXACTLY the same as their previous bios 4.80 ( same bios tag, major/minor version, crc, etc ) so the list of bugs above still applies and that means this bios is the real deal when it comes to being useless.  They decided to go ahead and release the bios that culminated into the very creation of this thread... since they have received plenty of bad reports from us and I guess from JZ himself I must assume they are a VERY disorganized company in regards to their bios, it's bugs and PR. 
They should create a seminar on "How to get ur consumers pissed and your company support to look REALLY bad".







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Originally posted by virpz virpz wrote:

Originally posted by bigboss bigboss wrote:

4.80 on their site today. Non beta. 


Don't even bother trying it, it is EXACTLY the same as their previous bios 4.80 ( same bios tag, major/minor version, crc, etc ) so the list of bugs above still applies and that means this bios is the real deal when it comes to being useless.  They decided to go ahead and release the bios that culminated into the very creation of this thread... since they have received plenty of bad reports from us and I guess from JZ himself I must assume they are a VERY disorganized company in regards to their bios, it's bugs and PR. 
They should create a seminar on "How to get ur consumers pissed and your company support to look REALLY bad".






Tried it and it works worse than beta 4.81 which was released earlier. Are they idiots? Is the beta supposed to be a newer version than this crap and it was released earlier? What a numbering scheme is this. Read my comment above, 4.80 is indeed sh*t.
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F***ing joke! Don't let me start on the Sapphire Boost, let alone the other stuff...

Someone please ping JZ for some info, and make a petition! I'm sick of this BS. ALL other vendors, and I mean ALL, ranging from ASUS to Biostar have tons of BIOS releases. We're stuck in betas for 2 years.
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4.80 also has broken virtualization support, same as 4.81. Really annoying. Qemu/KVM complains and fails to detect virtualization even when SVM is enabled. With 4.64 all is working fine. I'm reverting back to it.


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Sent an e-mail to Asrock support about broken SVM setting. Let's see if they'll answer.


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Originally posted by xhue xhue wrote:

F***ing joke! Don't let me start on the Sapphire Boost, let alone the other stuff...

Someone please ping JZ for some info, and make a petition! I'm sick of this BS. ALL other vendors, and I mean ALL, ranging from ASUS to Biostar have tons of BIOS releases. We're stuck in betas for 2 years.
Pretty sure JZ is following this thread ( like 6 hours ago ), also pretty sure he is as amazed as we are that AsRock has decided to release this piece of junk.

If anything good can come out of this is that AsRock is going to have alot more complaints about the X370 Taichi/Pro Gaming now.
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