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Originally posted by terribleperson terribleperson wrote:

I am satisfied because I got a highly capable motherboard that met all my requirements (mainly a 4.0 x4 slot in addition to the x16) for a very low price. Even accounting for the price of an external audio solution, it was an excellent deal. I can't buy an accessory to fix an unsuitable PCIe distribution.

I have since purchased a Behringer UCA222 for $19 which solves my audio issue.


Exactly. The performance of a chipset PCIe 4x4 NVMe slot was half that of an NVMe drive in an adapter plugged into the CPU PCIe 4x4 slot. (I checked it over a year ago?”maybe it's better with BIOS updates or the B850.)

You don?™t know what kind of controllers you?™ll be able to install in three years, so having PCIe 4x4 wired to the CPU is a must. I suspect running USB4 controllers through a chipset 4x4 lane is nonsense, even today.

I have better sound cards in my monitors than the onboard one.

It's crazy that people still buy ATX boards in 2025 with an inferior PCIe lane configuration and think they have more features. :)
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The PEG release mechanism is impossible to reach without a tool with a tower cooler installed, and a screwdriver isn't recommended.

Also, how do I boot an old Windows install that's on a SSD with a MBR partition table?
I've enabled CSM but the screen basically stays blank after the BIOS message.
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Originally posted by ATF ATF wrote:


Also, how do I boot an old Windows install that's on a SSD with a MBR partition table?
I've enabled CSM but the screen basically stays blank after the BIOS message.


Hard to tell if it is stalls at bios or os boot.

I would recommend converting to GPT and/or migrating this install to VM.

Edited by M440 - 06 Apr 2025 at 3:47am
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It's not that old, it's my regular W10 install from the old system. I'd rather not re-install Windows / all apps, though I'm aware it's recommended.
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Originally posted by ATF ATF wrote:

It's not that old, it's my regular W10 install from the old system. I'd rather not re-install Windows / all apps, though I'm aware it's recommended.


you don't have to re-install, in either suggestion i gave

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There's now a R2.0
What changed?
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I see ZERO difference in the Specification pages between the original and the R2.0. WRONG! PCIe x16 slot went from Gen.4 to Gen.5.

I also compared all the Gallery photos, and the only differences are the main PCIe slot cover design, and some silkscreen differences. RTC battery warning mark moved, and the logo changed a bit.

Ahh! I see it.
Original's main PCIe x16 slot is limited to Gen.4.
R2.0's main PCIe x16 slot supports Gen.5.

I imagine this is to keep up with what Gigabyte is doing.

I'm not sure if there is actual trace difference or not. I do see that the slot has a different metal design, but I don't know if it's required to support faster PCIe speed.

If someone is brave, try forcing the R2.0 BIOS onto the original and see if it supports PCIe x16 Gen.5 (laugh).


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Congratulations on the new build! It's very interesting to read about your experience with AM5 and the choice of AsRock ??ECC memory support is really rare and a big plus.

Your approach to two DIMM slots instead of four is also logical, especially considering the release of 64GB DDR5 modules. I agree that stability and speed are more important than the number of slots, especially if you don't plan on extreme overclocking.

About the sound with Realtek ALC897 ??it's also annoying why manufacturers save on this when they could have installed at least ALC1200 and added a little to the price.

By the way, if you're involved in assemblies and community support, I recommend taking a look at Overchat AI, it's a very convenient tool for managing feedback and bug reports, it helps keep everything in one place and quickly respond to reviews. I think it will be useful for you when coordinating such complex projects.

I wonder how the 9800X3D performs in ECO mode without a discrete graphics card - I think you have a unique configuration. Thanks for sharing such details!

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I'm about 97.1% sure that Alime1954 / mafer3 (above poster) is an AI.

#1 The post is underhandedly promoting some AI site. The original post includes a link to it, but looks like Xaltar removed the link.
#2 the writing is very much what an AI would create as a response to my original post.
#3 It has a misunderstanding of the topic, where it says, "I agree that stability and speed are more important than the number of slots, especially if you don't plan on extreme overclocking." This is wrong because extreme overclockers actually do care about the number of DIMM slots. They prefer just one DIMM per slot.

I predict various online accounts (Fakebook, X, and even Instagram and the likes) will become infested with AI sooner than later. Heck, most "users" on them might already be AI.

We have an interesting future ahead of us.
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