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I paid $89.99 for the memory kit when DDR4 had just the market and people were slow to migrate to it.

Also, please explain why the settings I show in the screenshot are somehow "bad" if my system is up and running stable @ 2666MHz for the first time since I bought these chips 3 years ago?

I was stuck @ 2133MHz the whole time I used them on my Intel based system but that was my own fault. I've been stuck @ 2133MHz on my AMD based system for awhile. But this time it's not my fault since I got a compatible motherboard that supports memory overclocking.

So, right now I'm up 533MHz and you want me to sell the chips, why?

Yes, the difficult experience has been educational for me. I've learned things I didn't know before. And I'm still learning now. If I bailed on everything I attempted the moment it became difficult I would never know anything.

The more I learn "now" from these memory sticks you categorize as not being 'decent' the more educated I'll feel when I actually do purchase my next memory kit.

Your own words:
"No matter what brand or model you decide to stick to, choose the smallest possible CL-number aka CAS latency."

So, I get these memory sticks to run at CL 14 and you scream "SELL, SELL, SELL!". Why?


So, please, help me understand, why these chips are inherently not 'decent'?

Thank You very much kind sir.



Edited by PatriotVipers - 03 Sep 2018 at 2:23am
System: AMD 2200G, ASRock AB350M Pro4, 16GB(2x8GB) 3000MHz Patriot Vipers (running @ 2134MHz *crying*).
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For $90 I guess they are quite decent then. 3200 @ CL14 is way more 'decent' if you have the $$$.

Fiddling day and night, struggling for the single CL drop, and small MT/s bump, only to find it unstable (BSOD) in certain load 2 months after. By 'SELL, SELL, SELL!' (IDK why this is in quotes, though) I mean you save yourself the hassle.  To each their own I guess.

More so, if you rely on the iGPU alone; you can really get nice FPS bump with higher MT/s RAM.

My work here is done! *flies away*
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Originally posted by xhue xhue wrote:

For $90 I guess they are quite decent then. 3200 @ CL14 is way more 'decent' if you have the $$$.

Fiddling day and night, struggling for the single CL drop, and small MT/s bump, only to find it unstable (BSOD) in certain load 2 months after. By 'SELL, SELL, SELL!' (IDK why this is in quotes, though) I mean you save yourself the hassle.  To each their own I guess.

More so, if you rely on the iGPU alone; you can really get nice FPS bump with higher MT/s RAM.

My work here is done! *flies away*

Well, it's not fiddling with it day and night. You solved your problem by throwing loads of cash at a very high-end set of memory sticks. I'm solving my problems in a much cheaper way and making myself more knowledgeable in the process. I get my rocks off in life by "knowing" how things work. You aren't the knowledgeable chap about memory sticks that I thought you were in the beginning.

How much did you pay for your kit of FlareX? It's currently selling for over $200.00 on NewEgg. Double what I paid. Life for me is a learning process from beginning to end. I'm in no hurry right now.

The "SELL, SELL, SELL" was in quotes to highlight your responses as exaggerated solutions to a problem which might be solved much cheaper and easier through knowledge versus money.



Edited by PatriotVipers - 03 Sep 2018 at 4:18am
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35 years as a PC hardware geek have learned me several things. One of the things I have learned is that going for high end to "future prof" is a bad investment -rather get middle end every 2 year than high end every 4. year. 
My funds are kind of limited so I always consider performance gain vs expense. How much faster would decent 3200MHz ram sticks be, maybe 10% ? That's a pretty lousy cost/performance ration.
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winwiz youve added three comments to this thread

how about you actually post some help to the guy

all your posts surely cant be negative/disagreemental
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I would like to say I appreciate everybody's participation in the the thread. It's okay if we all don't agree as long as we are expressing open and honest opinions. That's fine with me.

If memory prices keep falling then I may end up buying a newer and more compatible set for my Ryzen platform. But I'm patient and watching the market prices.
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if cl14 is stable then i wouldnt be panicking that much about 2933 esp. if its at the cost of cl16 or higher

if you want to put much effort in after try getting some of the other timings down a bit
trrd and tfaw mindblank found to help increase game frame rates
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