ASRock.com Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Technical Support > AMD Motherboards
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Why should I get a Fatal1ty X399?
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search Search  Events   Register Register  Login Login

Why should I get a Fatal1ty X399?
 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
isupeene View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 14 Aug 2017
Status: Offline
Points: 3 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote isupeene Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Why should I get a Fatal1ty X399?
    Posted: 14 Aug 2017 at 8:56am
I'm preparing a build for a gaming / video editing PC using Threadripper 1950X.  I've scoped my motherboard choices down to the Asus ROG Zenith Extreme and the ASRock Fatal1ty.

Aside from the price point, what are the reasons I should get a Fatal1ty over a ROG Zenith Extreme?
Back to Top
Teo 888 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 14 Aug 2017
Location: Greece
Status: Offline
Points: 2 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Teo 888 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Aug 2017 at 1:48pm
Because Fatality's qvl contains plenty of compatible ddr4 modules, while Zenith's only five or six, thus prooving that Fatality is better engineered motherboard than Zenith. Qvls in real world proove that Fatality can achieve 128gb of ram using the supported modules, while Zenith not. Qvls also proove that Fatality can achieve higher clock count for ddr4 and the infinity fabric by using supported ram modules, while Zenith tops at 3200 Ghz. Am I right?
Back to Top
MisterJ View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 19 Apr 2017
Status: Offline
Points: 1097 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MisterJ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Aug 2017 at 11:17pm
isupeene, $100 would make a lot of difference to me.  Does your case have room for a EATX board?  10 Gbps NIC is on-board and not an add-on card.  Enjoy, John.
Fat1 X399 Pro Gaming, TR 1950X, RAID0 3xSamsung SSD 960 EVO, G.SKILL FlareX F4-3200C14Q-32GFX, Win 10 x64 Pro, Enermx Platimax 850, Enermx Liqtech TR4 CPU Cooler, Radeon RX580, BIOS 2.00, 2xHDDs WD
Back to Top
datonyb View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 11 Apr 2017
Location: London U.K.
Status: Offline
Points: 3139 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote datonyb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 2:00am
Originally posted by Teo 888 Teo 888 wrote:

Because Fatality's qvl contains plenty of compatible ddr4 modules, while Zenith's only five or six, thus prooving that Fatality is better engineered motherboard than Zenith. Qvls in real world proove that Fatality can achieve 128gb of ram using the supported modules, while Zenith not. Qvls also proove that Fatality can achieve higher clock count for ddr4 and the infinity fabric by using supported ram modules, while Zenith tops at 3200 Ghz. Am I right?


to be fair i think thats quite a broad sweeping statement and likely not to be very much accurate

the rog community and namely elmor will be smashing bios revisions out faster than your daily evening meal
the community as a whole will have countless brands and serial numbers for tested ram combinations within the first week of the board landing to customers

and if you care to compare like for like between the top asus rog x370 board and the asrock fatality boards using ryzen and ram it shows the complete opposite of your statement

we have seen with the x370 even QVL ram on asrock boards not working at quoted speeds and or not even working

dont get me wrong im not slating any manufactuer here ( i myself have a x370 taichi) and im a happy customer BUT ALL x370 boards from any manufactuer have had quite a lot of beta testing from users and learning lessons on what ram ,what speed and what settings

i have read many posts from asrock buyers moaning that the asus rog x370 board got better support and tech attention (some may have not been good as an example there was a very bad bios near launch but hey so did other manufactuers)

i just had to point out your post wasnt the best informed information for the guy to make a buying decision on
[url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250][/url]

3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold
Back to Top
Nightbird View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 25 Apr 2015
Status: Offline
Points: 50 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Nightbird Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 8:26pm
Originally posted by MisterJ MisterJ wrote:

isupeene, $100 would make a lot of difference to me.  Does your case have room for a EATX board?  10 Gbps NIC is on-board and not an add-on card.  Enjoy, John.

If i planned to purchase a $999 cpu, i think that an extra $100 would not be a "problem".  Wink
Back to Top
Mojobaggins View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 11 Jun 2017
Status: Offline
Points: 11 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mojobaggins Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 11:53pm
Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

Originally posted by Teo 888 Teo 888 wrote:

Because Fatality's qvl contains plenty of compatible ddr4 modules, while Zenith's only five or six, thus prooving that Fatality is better engineered motherboard than Zenith. Qvls in real world proove that Fatality can achieve 128gb of ram using the supported modules, while Zenith not. Qvls also proove that Fatality can achieve higher clock count for ddr4 and the infinity fabric by using supported ram modules, while Zenith tops at 3200 Ghz. Am I right?


to be fair i think thats quite a broad sweeping statement and likely not to be very much accurate

the rog community and namely elmor will be smashing bios revisions out faster than your daily evening meal
the community as a whole will have countless brands and serial numbers for tested ram combinations within the first week of the board landing to customers

and if you care to compare like for like between the top asus rog x370 board and the asrock fatality boards using ryzen and ram it shows the complete opposite of your statement

we have seen with the x370 even QVL ram on asrock boards not working at quoted speeds and or not even working

dont get me wrong im not slating any manufactuer here ( i myself have a x370 taichi) and im a happy customer BUT ALL x370 boards from any manufactuer have had quite a lot of beta testing from users and learning lessons on what ram ,what speed and what settings

i have read many posts from asrock buyers moaning that the asus rog x370 board got better support and tech attention (some may have not been good as an example there was a very bad bios near launch but hey so did other manufactuers)

i just had to point out your post wasnt the best informed information for the guy to make a buying decision on

This is true.  With the X370 Fatal1ty Pro board, a number of qvl memory was listed for the system but it took months before AsRock provided a bios to allow my G.Skill FlareX to run at the listed speeds.

Asus will get faster bios updates and I will be more than likely going back to them for my next motherboard.  But what makes my X370 Fatal1ty Pro my last AsRock board is that it's the first motherboard that I have ever owned in the last 20 years that does not provide you with any diagnostic/system information on the startup splash screen.  I have to either go into the bios setup or wait to get into Windows before being able to realize what my cpu/memory speed is or what input/hard drive connections I have.  Inexcusable, imho. 
Back to Top
Teo 888 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 14 Aug 2017
Location: Greece
Status: Offline
Points: 2 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Teo 888 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Aug 2017 at 4:52am
Thanks for the answers to my ending question, but both seem to refer to a bad experience with the x370 mobos and not with the x399 ones. Right now Asrock seems to have a far broader qvl than Asus does for their x399 motherboards. How should I explain this at your oppinion? I am not an experienced user, but please check it out with their x399 qvls before you answer. To me, this means that asus faces far more compatibility problems than asrock does in their implementation of memory.
Back to Top
futre_vision View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 12 Sep 2017
Status: Offline
Points: 1 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote futre_vision Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 4:53am
What's the benefit of spending the extra $100 on the Fatal!ty X399 over the Taichi X399? Is the difference really worth the extra $100?

Edited by futre_vision - 12 Sep 2017 at 4:53am
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.04
Copyright ©2001-2021 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.221 seconds.