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    Posted: 25 Nov 2016 at 8:46pm
Am looking to purchase a ~ 

Toshiba OCZ RD400 Series Solid State Drive PCIe NVMe M.2 256GB with MLC Flash (RVD400-M22280-256G)

i am seeing it is  NVMe Protocol (PCIe, Gen. 3 x 4)
and my 990 fx extreme6 has a 1 M.2 (PCIe Gen2 x2 & SATA3)
bios vers 1.40 adds M.2 and NVMe support... will this work?...work but not as fast as advertised?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wardog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Nov 2016 at 10:58pm
The below from your MB's product page

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5 x SATA3 6.0 Gb/s Connectors, support RAID (RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 0+1, JBOD and RAID 5), NCQ, AHCI and Hot Plug
1 x M.2_SSD (NGFF) Socket 3, supports M.2 SATA3 6.0 Gb/s module and M.2 PCI Express module up to Gen2 x2 (10 Gb/s) (M.2_SSD (NGFF) Socket 3 is shared with the eSATA3 connector)


Best I can read from above and elsewhere on these pages is your fastest option will be an AIC card plugged into a PCIe slot as it appears the M.2 position is limited to SATA III speeds.

As you're located in the US contact ASRock Tech Support using one of the below means and verify first though as I'm not 100% convinced I'm correct.

Too, remember they may be on an extended vacation from yesterday thru Sunday due to Thanksgiving here.

Support Phone: 1-909-590-8308
Support Email: support@asrockamerica.com


And reply back with their answer if you remember please. Your MB fell smack dab in the middle of M.2 and NVME tech being introduced so I'd personally as a Moderator here like to know for future reference if you'd be so kind.
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Will do on both counts....tho at this point we will have to see who is faster....Asrock on the reply or Amazon on the shipping Big smile 
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Embarrassed Amazon shipping is speedy.
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Originally posted by Torak Torak wrote:

Am looking to purchase a ~ 

Toshiba OCZ RD400 Series Solid State Drive PCIe NVMe M.2 256GB with MLC Flash (RVD400-M22280-256G)

i am seeing it is  NVMe Protocol (PCIe, Gen. 3 x 4)
and my 990 fx extreme6 has a 1 M.2 (PCIe Gen2 x2 & SATA3)
bios vers 1.40 adds M.2 and NVMe support... will this work?...work but not as fast as advertised?


This is not so hard to figure out, if you have some experience with PCIe NVMe SSDs.

The OCZ RD400, as most NVMe SSDs, need a PCIe 3.0 x4 interface to get their optimal performance.

The AMD 990FX systems provide support for PCIe 2.0, which is 5Gb/s per lane. PCIe 3.0 is 8Gb/s per lane, with less overhead in the data transfer.

The M.2 slot on your board is both a PCIe 2.0 x2 interface (two PCIe 2.0 lanes), and can be used with SATA M.2 SSDs.

The RD400 requires PCIe 3.0 x4, four PCIe 3.0 lanes for optimal performance. So the M.2 slot on this board will have at best 50% of the performance of a full PCIe 3.0 x4 interface. It will be a little less than 50% actually.

There are M.2 to PCIe slot adapter cards that can be used with M.2 NVMe SSDs. You could use one of the adapter cards in the PCIE3 or PCIE5 slot, and provide a PCIe 2.0 x4 interface to the RD400. But since the interface is PCIe 2.0, you won't get the full performance of the RD400.

All of this applies to any mother board, AMD or Intel, depending upon the PCIe support (2.0 or 3.0), the PCIe lane allocation to the M.2 slot, and the available PCIe lanes in the PCIe slots.
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Try and beat Amazon by at least trying to call them. And remember, there in CA it's PST.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wardog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Nov 2016 at 12:17am
Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:



This is not so hard to figure out, if you have some experience with PCIe NVMe SSDs.


Says you. Is there any drive interface you haven't thoroughly run through the ringer there yet?

Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:


There are M.2 to PCIe slot adapter cards that can be used with M.2 NVMe SSDs. You could use one of the adapter cards in the PCIE3 or PCIE5 slot, and provide a PCIe 2.0 x4 interface to the RD400. But since the interface is PCIe 2.0, you won't get the full performance of the RD400.


That's what I thought. Thanks for the clarification parsec.


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Still awaiting reply from Asrock but found on Toshiba tech support in reply to if an NVMe enabled MB was needed to use the rd-400/A, the reply was that it can be used in ANY MB that supports M.2 or PCIe storage devices , NVMe is only needed if it is to be used as a boot drive. Though in looking at its full specs it says : PCIe Express Base Specification Revision 3.1. with no mention of backwards compatibilty...
I will hold off on tearing into it tomorrow til i hear from Asrock i guess, tho even if the *best* i can hope for is nearly half of roughly five times faster read speads of an avg ssd ...
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...or more if i go the add in card route. Reason for wanting to go the M.2 is more based on plans for building a custom clear desk/case ala the Lian Li DK-01. No sata ssd's = even less wires to manage Big smile
Hopefully tax time will add either an 8 or 9 series chip and liquid to replace the 6300 
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Dunno why but cant seem to recover acct so had to make new, Still as yet no reply from ASRock and amazon has been and gone, do see on the extremely limited documentation that it is PCIe Gen2 compatible so there's that. Tiny lil bugger got it and some lil cushion/pad/heatsink maybe?...not sure ...have to DL manual and drivers yet
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