Fatal1ty X399 Professional Gaming TR4 Random Crash

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   I'm kinda stumped at this point.  When this computer works. It works great and the performance is everything I want.  The problem is the random crashes and reboots.  I run several VMs on the system at all times, mostly for work. That's why I build this computer was specifically to use with multiple VMs and still be able to play the few games I play.  I've RMA'd this system board to ASROCK once, Swapped out the CPU with another one and tested all my memory modules in pairs of two making sure no errors would crop up.  With two modules the system seems the most stable, but still randomly crashes.  Anything beyond that on both processors is the same exact issue.  Passes Memtest without any problems. Just random lockups in BIOS and random crashes with no obvious error in Event Viewer.
System Stats
Thread Ripper 1950x
Fatal1ty X399 Professional Gaming TR4 (Bios: 2.0)
G.Skil 3200 Ram (128GB total)
AMD Vega 64
Corsair HX850 Power Supply

Thoughts or suggestions are welcome.  I'm open to old druid incantations at this point.

Edited by mike_schuler - 29 Jan 2018 at 9:50am

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mike_schuler Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 14 Sep 2017 Location: Minooka, Il Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote mike_schuler Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Fatal1ty X399 Professional Gaming TR4 Random Crash Posted: 29 Jan 2018 at 9:49am
	I'm kinda stumped at this point. When this computer works. It works great and the performance is everything I want. The problem is the random crashes and reboots. I run several VMs on the system at all times, mostly for work. That's why I build this computer was specifically to use with multiple VMs and still be able to play the few games I play. I've RMA'd this system board to ASROCK once, Swapped out the CPU with another one and tested all my memory modules in pairs of two making sure no errors would crop up. With two modules the system seems the most stable, but still randomly crashes. Anything beyond that on both processors is the same exact issue. Passes Memtest without any problems. Just random lockups in BIOS and random crashes with no obvious error in Event Viewer. System Stats Thread Ripper 1950x Fatal1ty X399 Professional Gaming TR4 (Bios: 2.0) G.Skil 3200 Ram (128GB total) AMD Vega 64 Corsair HX850 Power Supply Thoughts or suggestions are welcome. I'm open to old druid incantations at this point. Edited by mike_schuler - 29 Jan 2018 at 9:50am

MisterJ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 19 Apr 2017 Status: Offline Points: 1097	Post Options Post Reply Quote MisterJ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Jan 2018 at 9:55am
	mike_schuler, no dumps? If yes, please compress the minidump folder and upload where we can access it. Only other comment is I am a true believer in horsepower. Can you borrow or beg, say 1000 Watt, power supply to test with? Good luck and enjoy, John.
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mike_schuler Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 14 Sep 2017 Location: Minooka, Il Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote mike_schuler Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Jan 2018 at 10:34am
	I'll grab the Memory Dump next time it crashes. Looks like it already cleaned the one up from earlier today.

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	lock ups in bios as well as crashes is be looking more at the ram what settings are you using ? xmp 3200 all 8 sticks ? (also what 'CL' are those sticks ?)
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mike_schuler Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 14 Sep 2017 Location: Minooka, Il Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote mike_schuler Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jan 2018 at 1:49am
	Ram is running at 2800. I just bought an extra set of the ram modules to test with to make sure it wasn't a bad set. Settings are: Freq: 1396.7Mhz FSB:DRAM: 4:42 CAS: 16 tRCD: 18 tRP: 18 tRAS: 38 tRC: 56 CF: 1T I'm not trying to OC nor am I interested in it. Just want it to be stable. Last crash was a hard crash and didn't BSOD so I don't have a memory dump. Always happens when the computer is idle.

MisterJ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 19 Apr 2017 Status: Offline Points: 1097	Post Options Post Reply Quote MisterJ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jan 2018 at 3:55am
	mike_schuler, I had a similar problem on my X370 which required an RMA to correct two bad memory slots. Did not happen under load, usually idle, and never gave an BSOD. I narrowed it down by testing with two sticks at a time. Perhaps you could try four sticks at a time. Tough bug. Wish you the best. Enjoy, John.
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mike_schuler Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 14 Sep 2017 Location: Minooka, Il Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote mike_schuler Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jan 2018 at 4:31am
	Thanks MisterJ. It works fine for the most part if I take it down to two ram modules from the 8 ram modules I have now. This would be the second board I've RMA'd for the same problem. So either I got the same board back or the second board with the same issue. Either way it puts me out of a computer for a month while the issue gets resolved. I'll have to consider that again. :-(

datonyb Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 11 Apr 2017 Location: London U.K. Status: Offline Points: 3154	Post Options Post Reply Quote datonyb Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jan 2018 at 6:38am
	mike try 4 sticks and set them down to 2133 just to check 8 sticks double sided at higher speeds is quite a task for the cpu's memory controller
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